The same Gators who so moronically love to chastise the Miami Hurricanes with their ‘Thug U’ and unclever ‘scUM’ type razzings, even with the shoe on the other foot for years now.
According to the piece, a whopping SIXTEEN Gators football players have been involved in off-the-field incidents since Meyer took over in 2005.
Meyer’s excuse for the players’ actions? NCAA rules prohibiting him from getting to know players well enough during the recruiting process.
Teflon Urban went on to say, “The NCAA is pulling us off the recruiting process. I’m not allowed to go out and I’m not allowed to text message, but I’m trying to find out (about players) the best I can.”
Ahh, yes, what better way to get to know potential talent than through the impersonal art of text messaging early morning messages like, “it’s a great day to be a Florida Gator.” I’m sure a player’s response would be, “That’s right, coach. Can’t wait to get to town and tear your program to shreds with my thuggish behavior.”
Amazing, all of these off-the-field incidents could’ve been avoided if Meyer could text away and keep recruits in his Fab Five.
Meyer boldly strutted into Florida boasting he’d only take the “top 1% of the 1%”. If those 16 troublemakers represent the 1% of 1%, I’d hate to see what UiF would have on their roster if Meyer wasn’t such a stellar judge of character.
All Meyer has done this past decade is prove he’s a “win at all costs” type of guy, climbing that ladder and looking for the next big gig. Two years at Bowling Green before the Utah gig opened up and two years at Utah before Florida lured him away.
Meyer was offered the Notre Dame gig that Charlie Weis eventually took – which is where he’d have gone if he were really about the “1% of the 1%”. I’m no Irish backer, but safe to say academic standards will prevent UND from taking kids that would easily find their way onto the Gators’ roster.
Meyer spent 1995-2000 coaching wide receivers at Notre Dame and it should’ve been a dream opp for a former Irish coach, but not for The Myth, who was obviously familiar with their inability to recruit the same types of players some of the other football factories are able to.
Let’s also remember Meyer’s desire to discipline by convenience as his ‘win at all costs’ approach was proven in the fall of 2006, en route to Florida’s second school championship.
Jarvis Moss failed a drug test before Florida’s annual showdown with South Carolina, but he’d serve that suspension a week later against I-AA Western Carolina. The Gators beat the Cocks, 17-16, in a showdown where Moss blocked an extra point and a potential game-winning field goal.
Last season, Tony Joiner was another veteran Gator and important cog in the system that was allowed to play when he should’ve rode the pine. Joiner broke into a tow yard to retrieve his girlfriend’s car the week Florida was headed to Baton Rouge to take on the LSU Tigers.
Meyer vowed Joiner wouldn’t practice with the team until, “I find out everything” yet days later was suiting up for Florida’s biggest game of 2007. Amazing how a busy coach preparing for a huge game had time to wear the hat of investigative journalist and solve the Joiner case before the weekend – not to mention Florida law enforcement officials working tirelessly to get felony charges dropped.
Jamar Hornsby is the reason Meyer and the Gators are again under fire. Hornsby has been booted off the team after stealing the credit card and using it for six months. The owner of the card, a co-ed who was killed in a motorcycle accident last fall with a Gator walk-on laying down the bike and killing himself as well. Hornsby admitted to copping the card when helping the girl’s family empty out her apartment.
Florida faithful applaud Meyer for cracking the whip, but let’s be honest – who the hell was Hornsby in the grand scheme of things? A back up safety with five total tackles last season? We’re not exactly talking about a seasoned vet like Moss or Joiner. The kid was highly touted coming out of high school, but you can cut ‘potential’. It’s tougher to get rid of a proven vet – something Meyer would never do.
A few other 1%-ers who’ve tainted Meyer’s legacy since 2005? Ronnie Wilson (Battery, discharging a firearm), Avery Atkins (assault on a woman, drugs), Marcus Thomas (kicked off team for drug use), Brandon James (drug possession), Dorian Monroe (felony removal of parking boot) and Dustin Doe (arrested for assault), to name a few.
Lest not forget Dee Webb, Andre Caldwell and Reggie Lewis tooling around in an SUV loaded with $60,000 in cash as well as AKs and machine guns.
Florida isn’t the only program dealing with these issues. Welcome to College Football 2008 and the sense of entitlement that many young NCAA athletes feel is deserved.
What’s garbage here is Meyer’s attempt at shifting the blame and acting like he’s something other than he is. The Myth can talk a good game and give his “1% of the 1%” quotes all day long, but what is done to back that up – other than kicking a back up safety or a few other non-factors off the squad? Where was that ‘tough love’ when it was time to handle Moss or Joiner the same way – and moreso, why does the national media continue to give the slimeball a free pass?
Sitting a guy for a quarter, making him run laps or stripping the captain’s “C” off his chest for a few weeks isn’t going to teach a kid right from wrong. Maybe in 1958, but not these days when you’re dealing with players with character issues.
Meyer is an egomaniac, a job hopper and a user that will tell a kid anything to sell him on coming to Florida. Most Gator fans don’t want to hear that right now, as he brought home a title 2 seasons ago – but the truth will surface, in due time. I don’t think there are any folk out there who believe Meyer is going to be a Gator lifer. That NFL will come-a-callin’ soon enough and 3 or 4-loss seasons aren’t going to cut it in Gainesville after winning a ring year two.
A lack of text messaging and getting to know recruits doesn’t seem to be the case with a slew of other programs. How many issues has Randy Shannon had since taking over at Miami and following the rules? Conversely, how many kids have gotten the boot and had scholarships revoked for not being character guys, part of the Larry Coker regime and not welcome when it became Shannon’s show?
James Bryant, DajLeon Farr, Rhyan Anderson, Chris Perry, Doug Wiggins and Andrew Johnson, to name a few. Guys detrimental to the team’s future and with their own set of issues – they got the boot – even if the Canes were lacking depth at certain positions. Shannon has proven he’s a no-nonsense type of guy and that character is more important than winning. There is a way to win with character. Give Shannon time and he’ll prove it.
In the interim, keep your eye on the debacle in Gainesville as that circus show plays out and the media chooses to focus on the lone good kid – Tim Tebow, a.k.a. Mr. Everything Right With College Athletics – and will refuse to focus on the 16 troublemakers who have run amok on Meyer’s watch.
And for the Gators who love to drop the ‘Thug U’ crap on Canes fans, make note that these days you can’t spell scU.M. without ‘Urban Meyer’….
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Chris, you're a loser, bro. Actually, "poser" is more appropriate. You didn't even go to Miami b/c your broke ass family probably couldn't afford it and I would bet you never even finished a bachelor's degree. Typical Cane fan...living in a place like San Diego yet still trying to "pimp dat U" just because you're from Dade.
Do you even realize the problem Miami has right now? You have no fan base, no financial support, no stadium of your own, a president that sold out on a conference more suited for you (there were other metropolitan schools in the Big East that wouldn't outspend The U) in favor of more guaranteed money in the ACC (where there are programs like UNC, GT, VT, etc. with deeper alumni bases that will...), a third-rate coach, etc, etc....Miami's days of dominating are over. "Cane Nation" is comprised of too many lame ass fans like you that really have no affiliation to the school and can't provide the financial contributions to compete with programs like Mich, Oh St, UF, UGA, etc....UF is being supported by some of the wealthiest citizens in the state while The U is made up of CVS employees.
It's especially funny to hear you now resort to the "discipline blast" which you always ridiculed other schools doing to The U in your glory years, calling them jealous. Guess desperate times call for desperate measures.
Anyway, hope you're ready for the ass-beating that "The Myth" is going to lay on you posers on Sept. 6th...like you wrote about the UM/UF match-up in The Swamp back in 2002, there will be "nowhere to run, nowhere to hide." Only this time it will be the Canes getting bitch-slapped and all 4 or 5 of their fans that made the trip dipping at halftime.
Quit worrying about the Gators and start focusing on opponents more on your level, like Duke, Maryland, and UVA...maybe you can scrap out some wins against them this year.
As always, "It SUCKS..to be..a Miami Hurricane."
Dude, that was the best article I've read in months. You hit the nail on the head, bro!
Oh my little soft, "Anonymous" and venomous Gator puke...
Next time you post here, man up and put a name/email. Don't hide behind your anonymity. I'll let it slide this time, but next time I'll delete your drivel unless you man up and tell us who you are.
Let's break down your worthless little rant:
You're a loser, bro. Actually, "poser" is more appropriate. You didn't even go to Miami b/c your broke ass family probably couldn't afford it and I would bet you never even finished a bachelor's degree. Typical Cane fan...living in a place like San Diego yet still trying to "pimp dat U" just because you're from Dade.
Born in Miami, lived there 25 years, moved west when I was 28. As for my bachelor's degree, ironically enough I earned mine from the University of Florida, wanting to go away for school and land in a college town instead of kicking around Coral Gables. Endured a few years in that one horse town they call Gainesville, got my degree and got the hell out. Moved to CA for the opportunity and still representing my Canes. How's that make me a 'poser', champ? Enlighten me.
Do you even realize the problem Miami has right now? You have no fan base, no financial support, no stadium of your own, a president that sold out on a conference more suited for you (there were other metropolitan schools in the Big East that wouldn't outspend The U) in favor of more guaranteed money in the ACC (where there are programs like UNC, GT, VT, etc. with deeper alumni bases that will...), a third-rate coach, etc, etc....Miami's days of dominating are over. "Cane Nation" is comprised of too many lame ass fans like you that really have no affiliation to the school and can't provide the financial contributions to compete with programs like Mich, Oh St, UF, UGA, etc....UF is being supported by some of the wealthiest citizens in the state while The U is made up of CVS employees.
Miami is private school in a big city, pro sports town. It is what it is and never hurt the Canes when winning five titles over the past 25 seasons. When the Canes turn things around, the bangwagoners get on board -but the diehards always remain. College football is cyclical and this isn't the first time we've seen this happen. Finances weren't any better in the late 90s, when on probation and brought back from the dead by a then-unknown and supposed 'wrong choice' in Butch Davis, and we all saw how that turned out - his Miami career ending with a 37-20 ass kicking of the Florida Turds.
Percentage-wise, Miami does just fine with it's fan base. 10,000 undergrads and we average over 40,000 a game. Florida sports just shy of 50,000 undergrads and gets 80,000+ a game. Do the math on that one, smart guy and keep ripping our fan base.
Your typical Gator drivel is so played out. If you clowns have all the money, how come it's 5 to 2 in football titles and y'all lost six straight to Miami? If Meyer is the be all, end all how come our "third rate" head coach just recruited the pants off The Myth and locked down south Florida? What'd y'all pull, one kid from the Tri City area this year?
Financial restrictions never stopped Miami from winning before. Why will it now? Miami has something better than money - it has the tradition of being The U, the hardware and the ability to put more kids in the League than any other program. What do you think has more of a 'wow' factor on recruits -- wealthy citizens or history?
And yeah, the Orange Bowl is gone... which sucks for old school fans, but it fine for recruiting. Miami just went from the 'worst' stadium in the ACC to the best. A new tradition is about to begin.
It's especially funny to hear you now resort to the "discipline blast" which you always ridiculed other schools doing to The U in your glory years, calling them jealous. Guess desperate times call for desperate measures.
I'm sorry, have we met? Were we kicking it during the 'glory years' - you and me tooling around Miami on our bikes when I was a young teen, talking about how I wanted the Canes to be reckless, out of control hellraisers? Funny, I don't remember things going down that way, but you seem to have me totally sized up.
Fact remains there have been no bigger thugs in the game than Florida. Your off-the-field transgressions the past decade have been deplorable. From your Tank Black scandal to your merry band of gun toting, weed smoking thugs... all flying under the radar because the 'wealthy citizens' help sweep things under the rug. Check back later and I'll break down your arrests the past ten years and we'll give it the ol' Pepsi Challenge compared to Miami's transgressions.
Gotta love a tow yard owner dropping charges against Joiner and law enforcement getting the felony charges dropped within days so he could play against LSU. Does it get any more hick than that? What are y'all, a Texas high school football program?
It's not desperate times or desperate measures, my ill advised friend. Anyone with a clue can see that Larry Coker lost control of a program he never should've had. Shannon is righting the ship by cutting dead weight (be it coaches or players) and is rebuilding the right way, reeling in the nation's top talent... just like Butch did in the late 90s. Who else comes off a 5-7 season and reels in a top-ranked recruiting class. No one but Miami, champ.
Anyway, hope you're ready for the ass-beating that "The Myth" is going to lay on you posers on Sept. 6th...like you wrote about the UM/UF match-up in The Swamp back in 2002, there will be "nowhere to run, nowhere to hide." Only this time it will be the Canes getting bitch-slapped and all 4 or 5 of their fans that made the trip dipping at halftime.
The Myth and the Gators BETTER kick Miami's ass on September 6th or your program is pathetic. You've waited 23 years for the tables to be turned like this. This is the first time in the last six games Miami isn't the higher ranked team - and won't be ranked at all. Florida will roll in top five and with a Heisman winning quarterback and Miami will have a guy behind center that'll be 1-0, with his only start against Charleston Southern.
This is the first time in forever that both teams won't be ranked and y'all have homefield advantage. Florida comes off 9-4 and Miami, reeling of 5-7.
If Florida can't kick the ass off Miami FOR ONCE, y'all should pack it in. This game is as big a gimmie as you'll ever get and we'll have to wait for 2013, if y'all don't back out of that meeting in Miami.
Oh look, a clever little attendance comment. Only four fans will travel. Boo hoo. Seriously, what would Florida fans have without (1) the standard attendance knocks, (2) the racial comments or (3) the knock that the majority of the fan base didn't attend The U?
Quit worrying about the Gators and start focusing on opponents more on your level, like Duke, Maryland, and UVA...maybe you can scrap out some wins against them this year.
If your thugs would stay out of the news for stealing a dead girl's credit card, there'd have been no reason for me to write on Meyer. Have sixteen thugs in trouble on his watch since 2005 and y'all are going to get shredded here and everywhere else Gators are hated...
As always, "It SUCKS..to be..a Miami Hurricane."
Aww, did you try and make a funny? It certainly didn't suck 1983, 1987, 1989, 1991 and 2001... nor did it suck those six Saturdays that Miami last whipped Florida's ass... nor does it suck to be #1 in baseball... nor did it suck to reel in the nation's best class this year on the heels of 5-7, letting us all know the resurgence is on.
Take care, my friend... and 'bring it' a little better next time you stop by.
Oh. My. God.
Can you say "GATOR OWNED" by Canes305? Wow. Talk about an utter beatdown.
Gator Bait had no idea what he was getting into running his mouth around here. CLASSIC!!!!!!!
Dominic A.
Kendall, FL
Canes305 - your retort above is absolutely legendary - that coward that didn't leave his name just got COMPLETELY punked and set straight.
Good on ya' and keep the articles coming.
Go Canes!
I might start to develop a man-crush on Canes305 with all this classic Gaturd bashing!
I might start to develop a man-crush on Canes305 with all this classic Gaturd bashing!
What do you look like? I'm rather picky.
Seriously, I am over bashing for the sake of bashing. At least, I'm trying to be. Too much venomous b.s. online these days.
In this case, it's the truth. Sixteen troublemakers and a slew of arrests on Urban's watch since 2005? That's pathetic.
The guy is smug and he has a win at all costs mentality, yet Gator fans try to sell him like he's a great guy, et al. If Meyer wouldn't try to play himself off as a shaper of fine young men and was more Jim Tressel-esque, not denying he's running a football factory - I'd actually respect the guy more.
Instead he lies through his teeth (regarding recruits) and he plays that "1% of the 1%ers" crap.
I'm sorry, but if you go for quality, cream of the crop type kids you don't get 16 blemishes on your record in three seasons.
The guy is full of it and I can't wait to see how scorned Gators react when The Myth continues his job hopping and ladder climbing, winding up in the NFL in 2-3 years. Bank on it.
Once the Tebow train rides out of town, the natives get restless and his stock is higher regarding the NFL - he'll bolt on Florida just like he did Bowling Green and Utah. It'll be the same as when Saban left LSU and the venom all the folk in Baton Rouge now have for the guy.
Dont forget Jermaine Cunningham was arrested last December for battery!
F#&k those smug Gators. This piece says it all and should put them in place. Urban Meyer is a liar and a scammer. Anyone who doesn't see that is obviously a Gator who looks the other way because he won them their precious little second title. Youre right, Canes - the minute Meyer bolts for the NFL, he'll be Public Enemy No. 1 around Gainesville but for now he's Jesus Christ in the flesh. No, wait, that's Tim Tebow. Either way, the Gators are the dirtiest bunch out there these days and all Meyer cares about it winning football games. He's a fraud if he says it's about anything other than that. Keep up the good work, Canes!
UF is being supported by some of the wealthiest citizens in the state while The U is made up of CVS employees.
Check out these CVS Employees!
Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson
Enrique Iglesias
Gloria Estefan
Skip Bertman (Running the LSU that always beats you!)
Micky Arison
Drew Rosenhaus
R. Fred Lewis (Cheif Justice of the Florida Supreme Court)
Mind you the list could be longer! Also this list doesn't include all of the NFL players.
Before you come here and talk smack get your facts straight!