The Palm Beach post ran a story this morning on Urban Meyer, regarding all the off-the-field nonsense the dirty Florida Gators have been getting themselves into as of late.
The same Gators who so moronically love to chastise the Miami Hurricanes with their ‘Thug U’ and unclever ‘scUM’ type razzings, even with the shoe on the other foot for years now.
According to the piece, a whopping SIXTEEN Gators football players have been involved in off-the-field incidents since Meyer took over in 2005.
Meyer’s excuse for the players’ actions? NCAA rules prohibiting him from getting to know players well enough during the recruiting process.
Teflon Urban went on to say, “The NCAA is pulling us off the recruiting process. I’m not allowed to go out and I’m not allowed to text message, but I’m trying to find out (about players) the best I can.”
Ahh, yes, what better way to get to know potential talent than through the impersonal art of text messaging early morning messages like, “it’s a great day to be a Florida Gator.” I’m sure a player’s response would be, “That’s right, coach. Can’t wait to get to town and tear your program to shreds with my thuggish behavior.”
Amazing, all of these off-the-field incidents could’ve been avoided if Meyer could text away and keep recruits in his Fab Five.
Meyer boldly strutted into Florida boasting he’d only take the “top 1% of the 1%”. If those 16 troublemakers represent the 1% of 1%, I’d hate to see what UiF would have on their roster if Meyer wasn’t such a stellar judge of character.
All Meyer has done this past decade is prove he’s a “win at all costs” type of guy, climbing that ladder and looking for the next big gig. Two years at Bowling Green before the Utah gig opened up and two years at Utah before Florida lured him away.
Meyer was offered the Notre Dame gig that Charlie Weis eventually took – which is where he’d have gone if he were really about the “1% of the 1%”. I’m no Irish backer, but safe to say academic standards will prevent UND from taking kids that would easily find their way onto the Gators’ roster.
Meyer spent 1995-2000 coaching wide receivers at Notre Dame and it should’ve been a dream opp for a former Irish coach, but not for The Myth, who was obviously familiar with their inability to recruit the same types of players some of the other football factories are able to.
Let’s also remember Meyer’s desire to discipline by convenience as his ‘win at all costs’ approach was proven in the fall of 2006, en route to Florida’s second school championship.
Jarvis Moss failed a drug test before Florida’s annual showdown with South Carolina, but he’d serve that suspension a week later against I-AA Western Carolina. The Gators beat the Cocks, 17-16, in a showdown where Moss blocked an extra point and a potential game-winning field goal.
Last season, Tony Joiner was another veteran Gator and important cog in the system that was allowed to play when he should’ve rode the pine. Joiner broke into a tow yard to retrieve his girlfriend’s car the week Florida was headed to Baton Rouge to take on the LSU Tigers.
Meyer vowed Joiner wouldn’t practice with the team until, “I find out everything” yet days later was suiting up for Florida’s biggest game of 2007. Amazing how a busy coach preparing for a huge game had time to wear the hat of investigative journalist and solve the Joiner case before the weekend – not to mention Florida law enforcement officials working tirelessly to get felony charges dropped.
Jamar Hornsby is the reason Meyer and the Gators are again under fire. Hornsby has been booted off the team after stealing the credit card and using it for six months. The owner of the card, a co-ed who was killed in a motorcycle accident last fall with a Gator walk-on laying down the bike and killing himself as well. Hornsby admitted to copping the card when helping the girl’s family empty out her apartment.
Florida faithful applaud Meyer for cracking the whip, but let’s be honest – who the hell was Hornsby in the grand scheme of things? A back up safety with five total tackles last season? We’re not exactly talking about a seasoned vet like Moss or Joiner. The kid was highly touted coming out of high school, but you can cut ‘potential’. It’s tougher to get rid of a proven vet – something Meyer would never do.
A few other 1%-ers who’ve tainted Meyer’s legacy since 2005? Ronnie Wilson (Battery, discharging a firearm), Avery Atkins (assault on a woman, drugs), Marcus Thomas (kicked off team for drug use), Brandon James (drug possession), Dorian Monroe (felony removal of parking boot) and Dustin Doe (arrested for assault), to name a few.
Lest not forget Dee Webb, Andre Caldwell and Reggie Lewis tooling around in an SUV loaded with $60,000 in cash as well as AKs and machine guns.
Florida isn’t the only program dealing with these issues. Welcome to College Football 2008 and the sense of entitlement that many young NCAA athletes feel is deserved.
What’s garbage here is Meyer’s attempt at shifting the blame and acting like he’s something other than he is. The Myth can talk a good game and give his “1% of the 1%” quotes all day long, but what is done to back that up – other than kicking a back up safety or a few other non-factors off the squad? Where was that ‘tough love’ when it was time to handle Moss or Joiner the same way – and moreso, why does the national media continue to give the slimeball a free pass?
Sitting a guy for a quarter, making him run laps or stripping the captain’s “C” off his chest for a few weeks isn’t going to teach a kid right from wrong. Maybe in 1958, but not these days when you’re dealing with players with character issues.
Meyer is an egomaniac, a job hopper and a user that will tell a kid anything to sell him on coming to Florida. Most Gator fans don’t want to hear that right now, as he brought home a title 2 seasons ago – but the truth will surface, in due time. I don’t think there are any folk out there who believe Meyer is going to be a Gator lifer. That NFL will come-a-callin’ soon enough and 3 or 4-loss seasons aren’t going to cut it in Gainesville after winning a ring year two.
A lack of text messaging and getting to know recruits doesn’t seem to be the case with a slew of other programs. How many issues has Randy Shannon had since taking over at Miami and following the rules? Conversely, how many kids have gotten the boot and had scholarships revoked for not being character guys, part of the Larry Coker regime and not welcome when it became Shannon’s show?
James Bryant, DajLeon Farr, Rhyan Anderson, Chris Perry, Doug Wiggins and Andrew Johnson, to name a few. Guys detrimental to the team’s future and with their own set of issues – they got the boot – even if the Canes were lacking depth at certain positions. Shannon has proven he’s a no-nonsense type of guy and that character is more important than winning. There is a way to win with character. Give Shannon time and he’ll prove it.
In the interim, keep your eye on the debacle in Gainesville as that circus show plays out and the media chooses to focus on the lone good kid – Tim Tebow, a.k.a. Mr. Everything Right With College Athletics – and will refuse to focus on the 16 troublemakers who have run amok on Meyer’s watch.
And for the Gators who love to drop the ‘Thug U’ crap on Canes fans, make note that these days you can’t spell scU.M. without ‘Urban Meyer’….
Chris, you’re a loser, bro. Actually, “poser” is more appropriate. You didn’t even go to Miami b/c your broke ass family probably couldn’t afford it and I would bet you never even finished a bachelor’s degree. Typical Cane fan…living in a place like San Diego yet still trying to “pimp dat U” just because you’re from Dade.
Do you even realize the problem Miami has right now? You have no fan base, no financial support, no stadium of your own, a president that sold out on a conference more suited for you (there were other metropolitan schools in the Big East that wouldn’t outspend The U) in favor of more guaranteed money in the ACC (where there are programs like UNC, GT, VT, etc. with deeper alumni bases that will…), a third-rate coach, etc, etc….Miami’s days of dominating are over. “Cane Nation” is comprised of too many lame ass fans like you that really have no affiliation to the school and can’t provide the financial contributions to compete with programs like Mich, Oh St, UF, UGA, etc….UF is being supported by some of the wealthiest citizens in the state while The U is made up of CVS employees.
It’s especially funny to hear you now resort to the “discipline blast” which you always ridiculed other schools doing to The U in your glory years, calling them jealous. Guess desperate times call for desperate measures.
Anyway, hope you’re ready for the ass-beating that “The Myth” is going to lay on you posers on Sept. 6th…like you wrote about the UM/UF match-up in The Swamp back in 2002, there will be “nowhere to run, nowhere to hide.” Only this time it will be the Canes getting bitch-slapped and all 4 or 5 of their fans that made the trip dipping at halftime.
Quit worrying about the Gators and start focusing on opponents more on your level, like Duke, Maryland, and UVA…maybe you can scrap out some wins against them this year.
As always, “It SUCKS..to be..a Miami Hurricane.”
Dude, that was the best article I’ve read in months. You hit the nail on the head, bro!
Oh my little soft, “Anonymous” and venomous Gator puke…
Next time you post here, man up and put a name/email. Don’t hide behind your anonymity. I’ll let it slide this time, but next time I’ll delete your drivel unless you man up and tell us who you are.
Let’s break down your worthless little rant:
You’re a loser, bro. Actually, “poser” is more appropriate. You didn’t even go to Miami b/c your broke ass family probably couldn’t afford it and I would bet you never even finished a bachelor’s degree. Typical Cane fan…living in a place like San Diego yet still trying to “pimp dat U” just because you’re from Dade.
Born in Miami, lived there 25 years, moved west when I was 28. As for my bachelor’s degree, ironically enough I earned mine from the University of Florida, wanting to go away for school and land in a college town instead of kicking around Coral Gables. Endured a few years in that one horse town they call Gainesville, got my degree and got the hell out. Moved to CA for the opportunity and still representing my Canes. How’s that make me a ‘poser’, champ? Enlighten me.
Do you even realize the problem Miami has right now? You have no fan base, no financial support, no stadium of your own, a president that sold out on a conference more suited for you (there were other metropolitan schools in the Big East that wouldn’t outspend The U) in favor of more guaranteed money in the ACC (where there are programs like UNC, GT, VT, etc. with deeper alumni bases that will…), a third-rate coach, etc, etc….Miami’s days of dominating are over. “Cane Nation” is comprised of too many lame ass fans like you that really have no affiliation to the school and can’t provide the financial contributions to compete with programs like Mich, Oh St, UF, UGA, etc….UF is being supported by some of the wealthiest citizens in the state while The U is made up of CVS employees.
Miami is private school in a big city, pro sports town. It is what it is and never hurt the Canes when winning five titles over the past 25 seasons. When the Canes turn things around, the bangwagoners get on board -but the diehards always remain. College football is cyclical and this isn’t the first time we’ve seen this happen. Finances weren’t any better in the late 90s, when on probation and brought back from the dead by a then-unknown and supposed ‘wrong choice’ in Butch Davis, and we all saw how that turned out – his Miami career ending with a 37-20 ass kicking of the Florida Turds.
Percentage-wise, Miami does just fine with it’s fan base. 10,000 undergrads and we average over 40,000 a game. Florida sports just shy of 50,000 undergrads and gets 80,000+ a game. Do the math on that one, smart guy and keep ripping our fan base.
Your typical Gator drivel is so played out. If you clowns have all the money, how come it’s 5 to 2 in football titles and y’all lost six straight to Miami? If Meyer is the be all, end all how come our “third rate” head coach just recruited the pants off The Myth and locked down south Florida? What’d y’all pull, one kid from the Tri City area this year?
Financial restrictions never stopped Miami from winning before. Why will it now? Miami has something better than money – it has the tradition of being The U, the hardware and the ability to put more kids in the League than any other program. What do you think has more of a ‘wow’ factor on recruits — wealthy citizens or history?
And yeah, the Orange Bowl is gone… which sucks for old school fans, but it fine for recruiting. Miami just went from the ‘worst’ stadium in the ACC to the best. A new tradition is about to begin.
It’s especially funny to hear you now resort to the “discipline blast” which you always ridiculed other schools doing to The U in your glory years, calling them jealous. Guess desperate times call for desperate measures.
I’m sorry, have we met? Were we kicking it during the ‘glory years’ – you and me tooling around Miami on our bikes when I was a young teen, talking about how I wanted the Canes to be reckless, out of control hellraisers? Funny, I don’t remember things going down that way, but you seem to have me totally sized up.
Fact remains there have been no bigger thugs in the game than Florida. Your off-the-field transgressions the past decade have been deplorable. From your Tank Black scandal to your merry band of gun toting, weed smoking thugs… all flying under the radar because the ‘wealthy citizens’ help sweep things under the rug. Check back later and I’ll break down your arrests the past ten years and we’ll give it the ol’ Pepsi Challenge compared to Miami’s transgressions.
Gotta love a tow yard owner dropping charges against Joiner and law enforcement getting the felony charges dropped within days so he could play against LSU. Does it get any more hick than that? What are y’all, a Texas high school football program?
It’s not desperate times or desperate measures, my ill advised friend. Anyone with a clue can see that Larry Coker lost control of a program he never should’ve had. Shannon is righting the ship by cutting dead weight (be it coaches or players) and is rebuilding the right way, reeling in the nation’s top talent… just like Butch did in the late 90s. Who else comes off a 5-7 season and reels in a top-ranked recruiting class. No one but Miami, champ.
Anyway, hope you’re ready for the ass-beating that “The Myth” is going to lay on you posers on Sept. 6th…like you wrote about the UM/UF match-up in The Swamp back in 2002, there will be “nowhere to run, nowhere to hide.” Only this time it will be the Canes getting bitch-slapped and all 4 or 5 of their fans that made the trip dipping at halftime.
The Myth and the Gators BETTER kick Miami’s ass on September 6th or your program is pathetic. You’ve waited 23 years for the tables to be turned like this. This is the first time in the last six games Miami isn’t the higher ranked team – and won’t be ranked at all. Florida will roll in top five and with a Heisman winning quarterback and Miami will have a guy behind center that’ll be 1-0, with his only start against Charleston Southern.
This is the first time in forever that both teams won’t be ranked and y’all have homefield advantage. Florida comes off 9-4 and Miami, reeling of 5-7.
If Florida can’t kick the ass off Miami FOR ONCE, y’all should pack it in. This game is as big a gimmie as you’ll ever get and we’ll have to wait for 2013, if y’all don’t back out of that meeting in Miami.
Oh look, a clever little attendance comment. Only four fans will travel. Boo hoo. Seriously, what would Florida fans have without (1) the standard attendance knocks, (2) the racial comments or (3) the knock that the majority of the fan base didn’t attend The U?
Quit worrying about the Gators and start focusing on opponents more on your level, like Duke, Maryland, and UVA…maybe you can scrap out some wins against them this year.
If your thugs would stay out of the news for stealing a dead girl’s credit card, there’d have been no reason for me to write on Meyer. Have sixteen thugs in trouble on his watch since 2005 and y’all are going to get shredded here and everywhere else Gators are hated…
As always, “It SUCKS..to be..a Miami Hurricane.”
Aww, did you try and make a funny? It certainly didn’t suck 1983, 1987, 1989, 1991 and 2001… nor did it suck those six Saturdays that Miami last whipped Florida’s ass… nor does it suck to be #1 in baseball… nor did it suck to reel in the nation’s best class this year on the heels of 5-7, letting us all know the resurgence is on.
Take care, my friend… and ‘bring it’ a little better next time you stop by.
Oh. My. God.
Can you say “GATOR OWNED” by Canes305? Wow. Talk about an utter beatdown.
Gator Bait had no idea what he was getting into running his mouth around here. CLASSIC!!!!!!!
Dominic A.
Kendall, FL
Canes305 – your retort above is absolutely legendary – that coward that didn’t leave his name just got COMPLETELY punked and set straight.
Good on ya’ and keep the articles coming.
Go Canes!
I might start to develop a man-crush on Canes305 with all this classic Gaturd bashing!
I might start to develop a man-crush on Canes305 with all this classic Gaturd bashing!
What do you look like? I’m rather picky.
Seriously, I am over bashing for the sake of bashing. At least, I’m trying to be. Too much venomous b.s. online these days.
In this case, it’s the truth. Sixteen troublemakers and a slew of arrests on Urban’s watch since 2005? That’s pathetic.
The guy is smug and he has a win at all costs mentality, yet Gator fans try to sell him like he’s a great guy, et al. If Meyer wouldn’t try to play himself off as a shaper of fine young men and was more Jim Tressel-esque, not denying he’s running a football factory – I’d actually respect the guy more.
Instead he lies through his teeth (regarding recruits) and he plays that “1% of the 1%ers” crap.
I’m sorry, but if you go for quality, cream of the crop type kids you don’t get 16 blemishes on your record in three seasons.
The guy is full of it and I can’t wait to see how scorned Gators react when The Myth continues his job hopping and ladder climbing, winding up in the NFL in 2-3 years. Bank on it.
Once the Tebow train rides out of town, the natives get restless and his stock is higher regarding the NFL – he’ll bolt on Florida just like he did Bowling Green and Utah. It’ll be the same as when Saban left LSU and the venom all the folk in Baton Rouge now have for the guy.
Dont forget Jermaine Cunningham was arrested last December for battery!
F#&k those smug Gators. This piece says it all and should put them in place. Urban Meyer is a liar and a scammer. Anyone who doesn’t see that is obviously a Gator who looks the other way because he won them their precious little second title. Youre right, Canes – the minute Meyer bolts for the NFL, he’ll be Public Enemy No. 1 around Gainesville but for now he’s Jesus Christ in the flesh. No, wait, that’s Tim Tebow. Either way, the Gators are the dirtiest bunch out there these days and all Meyer cares about it winning football games. He’s a fraud if he says it’s about anything other than that. Keep up the good work, Canes!
UF is being supported by some of the wealthiest citizens in the state while The U is made up of CVS employees.
Check out these CVS Employees!
Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson
Enrique Iglesias
Gloria Estefan
Skip Bertman (Running the LSU that always beats you!)
Micky Arison
Drew Rosenhaus
R. Fred Lewis (Cheif Justice of the Florida Supreme Court)
Mind you the list could be longer! Also this list doesn’t include all of the NFL players.
Before you come here and talk smack get your facts straight!
I believe someone just got punched right in the mouth. Am I right? What a douche. Coming on OUR blog trying to run his big hick mouth. Way to take the words out of all of our mouths, Chris. Like you mentioned, WE are SUPPOSE to lose this game to UF (University Of Felons). They have more to lose then us.
I like the Mr. Tow’N’Go part.
I’ve never really found any reason to justify just how asinine and idiotic the Crocs are b/c they’re beyond consistent when it comes to proving it by merely waking up every morning. The simple mindedness that comes either out of their single toothed mouths or through their fingers onto their Tandy 100’s (LOOK MA, IT’S LIKE ONE DEM TYPIN’ MAH-SHEENS WIFF A TV ON THE TOP OF IT).. always makes for a good laugh. No doubt, Mr. Anonymous Croc proved it once again – trying to get a sucker punch in and then running.
Before I get to the “No financial support” line that the overwhelmingly un-informed Croc decided to write, I’ll drop a quick fact on the financial impact The U has in Miami-Dade County. According to plenty of sources and I’ll name one right now – BNET.com (Business Network the go to place for management) – on their Business Wire article from March 6, 2008, the headline reads: “Study Shows University of Miami’s Economic Impact Swells to $4.5 Billion”. Considering the size of the little upstart school in Coral Gables that the nation seems to have a hard-on to vilify – The U seems to take care of it’s own pretty well. In 2007, The U provided employment for 11,700 on all its campuses (90% residing in Miami-Dade County) and compensated them $875 Million. Over 70,000 visitors attended The U sponsored academic events and spent around $71 Million and students of The U from outside the area spent an estimated $236 Million in the local economy.
Here’s the part that I guess the Crocs choose not to accept … and I quote .. “The University shattered expectations by completing its ‘Momentum: The Campaign for the University of Miami’, raising $1.4 BILLION, the LARGEST FUNDRAISING EFFORT EVER UNDERTAKEN BY A UNIVERSITY IN FLORIDA”. Funny thing is, after seeing what the school “made up of CVS employees” has done, the Crocs last year announced a plan to raise $1.5 Billion .. kind of funny how insecure and inadequate the Crocs feel when a school 3 times smaller than them in student size (UF 35,110 undergrads & The U has 10,509 undergrads) and probably even smaller in booster/alumni size – is curb-stomping the f*ck out of them in fundraising.
Seeing how UF was founded in 1853, is a public school, and is the 4th largest school in the nation – as opposed to The U, which was founded in 1925 and is a small private school … that’s beyond pathetic for UF to be consistently embarrassed in all aspects pertaining them VS. The U.
The goal of The U when they started the campaign was to raise $1 Billion .. instead, they raised $1.4 Billion. Not bad. With the new Sports AD (Kirby Hocutt) coming in with an exceptional track record, things are only going to get better and scarier for opposing schools. Here’s some quick points about Mr. Hocutt ..
– In his two years at Ohio University, he increased donations by more than 75% and secured the second largest major gift in the school’s athletic history.
– While at Univeristy of Oklahoma as Assistant AD from 1998-2004, he was largely responsible for a 400% increase in annual giving, one of the largest percentage increases in history. Their donations rose from $3.4 Million to $17 Million. His former boss at Oklahoma, Joe Castiglione, is a native South Floridian and a former intern for the ‘Canes Athletic Department.
Here’s another fun stat about the school with “no fundraising” … in 2006, The U raised $158 Million while UF, which is being “supported by some of the wealthiest citizens in the state” (according to the anonymous Croc that posted here) raised $156 Million. What’s the matter UF? Couldn’t one of your “wealthiest citizens in the state” scratch off a check for another $2 Million to at least tie with The U? Also, not to forget all this money was raised during one of the worst economies our nation has seen in the eight years because of the current presidential administration.
Although, I’m guessing if you finally did beat The U at something, then it would be having 16 or 17 of Urban’s boys get some up close and personal time with Gainesville’s Finest – and I’m not talking about Erin Andrews (honestly though, when I look at her, I see Trev Alberts with long hair). I’m talking about the good ol’ boys in blue .. but from the sounds of it, your good ol’ boys are exactly that – a bunch of Roscoe P. Coltrane’s from Hazzard County and UF is Boss Hog. Let’s see, sixteen or seventeen of Urban’s top 1% of the 1% – as opposed to how many of Boss Man Shannon’s kids were arrested? I will admit, you did kick The U’s ass in that department .. why don’t you give Andre Caldwell, Reggie Lewis, Dee Webb and Kenneth Tookes a call so they can point their AK-47’s in the air and fire off some rounds in their apartment complex in celebration. And I’m thinking the real reason Tony Joiner didn’t drive away with the car from the impound at 4-5am is b/c he got in the car, realized the gas tank was on “E” and was waiting for Jamar Hornsby to get a hold of Ashley Slonina’s credit card to use for gas. It was much easier though for Jamar to lift the card from her 10 days later when she was tragically killed. 1% of the 1% doin’ ya Crocs proud right there.
If you want a quick summary of just a few of the incidents, I recapped them here on AllCanes Blog in the October 2007 Archives – under the nice mug shot of Tony Joiner.
Here’s another Croc winner in case people need their memories refreshed – Jeremy Finch. The guy fathers two illegitimate kids in Indianapolis, leaves them like a good dead beat dad, gets a scholly to UF so the state of Indiana could provide welfare to raise his kids, UF didn’t care about his personal situation as long as he ran a fast 40, he eventually blew out his knee and failed his classes – awesome.
Anyway, I could go on and on but I have to go to the post office and mail some food stamps to The U and hopefully they can trade them in as cash in hopes of keeping their heads afloat in the financial world.
By the way, I’ll be in Gainesville on the field on Sat. Sept 6th. Does that mean only 4 other ‘Cane fans will be there in the entire stadium b/c I count against the total amount? You better f*ckin bring 23 years of built up frustration that day and try to unleash it – b/c if you don’t, we’re going to burn that motherf*ckin sh*thole of a field down to the ground and lay waste to anything that doesn’t have the fiercest symbol ever created on their being – THE U.
S. Woodward…. you are my hero.
Email me at chris@allCanes.com when you can. I have a question for you. – Canes305
Awesome posts guys, don’t see what a gator is doing so far from its sh*thole(swamp) anyways. Its going to be pretty funny watching the gators fan parade around “if” they beat Miami. I don’t want to say they will, but things aren’t looking to good with a new group of guys, and new sharpshooter under center. But of course it wouldn’t suprise me if they start to brag how they beat us by x amount of points. Even though they know we could have ripped them a new one, had this been a team that wasn’t ravaged by the NFL, or turned upside down by a coach which what seems to have had horrible recruiting standards. The U will be back, but it will take time like every dynasty. I better start saving up all the change i have, because i will be at the next BCS Championship game that the ‘canes attend. You will be able to find me in the mob of orange and green, cheering another title in our grasp.
-Joel
Here’s another Croc winner in case people need their memories refreshed – Jeremy Finch. The guy fathers two illegitimate kids in Indianapolis, leaves them like a good dead beat dad, gets a scholly to UF so the state of Indiana could provide welfare to raise his kids, UF didn’t care about his personal situation as long as he ran a fast 40, he eventually blew out his knee and failed his classes – awesome.
Ummmm Do you know anything at all about Randy Shannon and his relationship his 4 kids from3 different mothers?
You do know that he readily admits he doesnt have anythng to do with them because he is more concrened with coaching….
idiots…
All I have to say is Miami hurricanes vs. F.I.U. You guys embarrassed yourselves as players, your university, and the game of football. Shame on you! Clean your house first before making fun of others. I am an OSU fan and have alwasy thought highly of the Gators but have always, and will always, think UM is full of thugs. If Randy can change that perception, then I congradulate him. With that said. Never gonna happen.
All I have to say is Miami hurricanes vs. F.I.U. You guys embarrassed yourselves as players, your university, and the game of football. Shame on you! Clean your house first before making fun of others. I am an OSU fan and have alwasy thought highly of the Gators but have always, and will always, think UM is full of thugs. If Randy can change that perception, then I congradulate him. With that said. Never gonna happen.
Let me get this straight… an Ohio State thug is waving his finger at Miami and says he always thought highly of the Gators? Get back on your meds, chief.
A few things about the FIU brawl — For starters, it was two years ago and under the Coker regime. Second of all, Shannon already came out and stated that he’s have thrown every one of those kids off the time, lobbied to do so and didn’t have the final say. Look it up in Gary Smith’s SI piece I linked to a week ago.
Shannon has cracked the whip since he’s come to Miami and the Canes were never in hot water on Butch Davis’ watch. Ironically enough, a few problems resurfaced under Mr. Nice Guy, Larry Coker.
Do your f’n homework and get back to me. Look up Florida’s transgressions the past 10-15 years, compare them to Miami’s and then get back to me on all this “Miami is full of thugs” and “I always respected Florida” crap.
OSU fan, save it. Don’t come on this blog talking sht about what goes on at The U when you have your own issues. I live in Slowlumbus and know better! Did you forget about what Maurice Clarett is behind bars for at this very moment? I believe he was pulled over, already wanted for a felony for pulling a gun on someone demanding money, and was found with loaded weapons in his car. Do you remember one of your WR’s leaving for the NFL and it was found that his grade point average was 0.0? Do you remember the game against Wisconsin where one of your LB’s CHOKED the Badger starting QB on purpose in the pile and it was caught on camera? The poor guy had to leave the game and couldn’t breathe or swallow. Needless to say Tressel gave no punishment and said he ‘didn’t see’ what happened, even the next week. Do you remember just last Fall your backup QB was arrested for trying to solicit a prostitute? Do you remember your starting left tackle getting cited for underage drinking and driving (Alex Boone)? Do you remember just last year after you were EMBARRASSED at home by Illinios, that Suckeye players threw punches when the visting team celebrated and jumped up and down on your blcok O? (Nobody was punished of course) Do you remember one of your WR’s getting arrested for sexual battery against an underage girl two or three years ago? Maybe you bow down to the Gators since they own you in footbal AND basketball but we don’t. We point out the fact that we have a bad rap from over 20 years ago but there are programs currently in worse shape and not a word is said. So shut the f*** up and worry about your punk players.
-Columbus Cane
Hey $hithead Suckeye – Choke on these stats regarding those ‘angelic’ Gators and find us some similar dirt on the Canes!!
This sums up the last decade at UiF, give or take a few scumbags who didn’t make the cut here:
Thugs from the Tank Black era: Fred Taylor, Reidel Anthony, Ike Hilliard, Javon Kearse, Jacquez Green, Mike Peterson, Reggie McGrew, Johnny Rutledge and Keith Council. Tim Beauchamp and Dock Pollard were dealing with agent Mike McDonald. Mo Collins and Tony George accepted cash and or bribes from agents.
Jabar Gaffney – Theft.
Reidel Anthony – Credit card fraud.
Fred Taylor – Credit card fraud/theft.
Ron Graddy – Accessory to armed robbery.
Doc Pollard – Theft.
Jamie Richardson – Aggrivated battery and theft.
Damian Hill – Theft.
Pat Browning – DUI and theft.
Takeo Brown – Domestic Violence (against pregnant girlfriend),
credit card fraud.
Derrick Corker – Domestic battery and criminal mischief.
Dwight Edge – Aggravated stalking, battery
Anthony Mitchel – Battery
Ernie Badeaux – Battery
Johnnie Church – Domestic violence.
Elijah Williams – Sexual Battery, obstructing justice, coercing witnesses to lie.
Tony Davis – Held girlfriend over the railing of her fourth-floor dormitory balcony and threatened to let her go.
Darren Hambrick – Assault with deadly weapon.
Anthony Riggins – Assault with deadly weapon.
Willie Jackson – Attacked police officer at Gator Growl.
Dustin Doe – Arrested for assault and battery in parking garage.
Avery Atkins – domestic assault – kicked off team, died of overdose.
Ronnie Matthew Wilson – Aggravated assault, simple battery, illegally discharging an automatic weapon.
Pat Browning – DUI, Purse stealer, theft.
Ryan Kalich – DUI, crashed into an off-duty deputy.
Ian Skinner – 15 Days jail – multiple driving infractions.
Gerard Warren – Marijuana possession.
Ian Skinner – Ecstacy possession
Marcus Thomas – kicked off team for drug violations.
Jarvis Moss – suspended for drug violations (week AFTER he was MVP of South Carolina win and should’ve missed THAT game.)
Major Parker – BB Player and Assistant coach at UF during – Busted for selling 1/2 kilo of coke to undercover officers.
Zach Zedalis – Gun in dorm
Demetrice Webb – Involved in shooting in residential complex
Kenneth Tookes – Involved in shooting in residential complex (shot Webb’s AK-47)
Kyle Morris – Betting on football
Shane Matthews – Betting on football games.
Eugene McCaslin – 3 game rules violation
John Demps – kicked off team for traffic violations (more unknown)
Lito Sheppard – Failed drug test.
You STILL want to call Miami Thug U, you moron!!!!! GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!! There are two Thug Us in the F-L-A and they’re both podunk towns north of I-75!!
We won’t even “go there” regarding all the horseshit that goes down in Columbus, OH!
How pathetic for anyone to mention Jeremy Finch. This is the typically BS that gets thrown around about Meyer. Finch preformed great as a freshman last year and blew out his knee, went through recovery and was looking at playing time this year but didn’t make the grade. This somehow shows that Meyer and UF have no morals? Huh? And to mention that he has two kids out of weblock, how many young football players are in this same scenario? CJ Spiller, Preston Parker just naming a few off the top of my head. But I guess since Finch signed with Florida hes a deadbeat Dad. You ever think that he might have left the team to be closer to his kids? Heres to you guys being .500 this year. I have faith show me you can do it.
How pathetic for anyone to mention Jeremy Finch. This is the typically BS that gets thrown around about Meyer.
You’re right, Anonymous Gator… why does anyone even need to bring up Jeremy Finch when there are at least another dozen or so Gators who have proved they’re much bigger scumbags – all on Teflon Urban’s watch.
As for .500 this year, all we can say is, we’ll see.
Miami may still be a year away, but no more than that. Shannon is turning it around and even your scumbag head coach knows it, based on his inability to recruit South Florida this past season.
The State of Miami is back, Turd… The resurgence is on.
Hey jackass – is Randy Shannon a dead-beat dad that doesn’t pay one single penny, runs 870 miles away and relies on the state to provide for his kids? If so, then you show me exactly where the proof of that is. If you’re man enough to bring a child into this world, then be man enough to provide for them … I’ve never heard once of Randy Shannon being blasted for being a dead beat dad – can you say the same about Jeremy Finch? How about going to the school that you committed to originally, that is close to your home and kids – instead of going 870 miles and a time zone away? Is Indiana University (where Finch was originally committed) not the right place for him being near his kids? Maybe it’s because he felt he couldn’t get a quality education at IU as he could at UF – Channing Crowder is a perfect example of the educational standard UF so highly regards …
– “I couldn’t find London on a map if they didn’t have the names of the countries,” Crowder said. “I swear to God. I don’t know what nothing is. I know Italy looks like a boot. I learned that. I know Washington Redskins linebacker London Fletcher. We did a football camp together. So I know him. That’s the closest thing I know to London. He’s black, so I’m sure he’s not from London. I’m sure that’s a coincidental name.”
F*ckin awesome – that’s true Croc intellect right there, can’t beat it … oh wait, Jeremy flunked out didn’t he, so looks like he did get a taste of that quality Croc education.
“I don’t know what nothing is” – I really can’t get enough of that quote …. if I had an audio clip of it, I’d make it my ringtone. That’s beyond out-f*ckin-standing Channing. We are the idiot boys from ‘Ol Florida.
Do you really want me to type every single damn thing that the Crocs have done in the past 10-15 years? Hell, how about since your demi-god Meyer has been there? How about you tell me how many Croc players were arrested after your National Championship? Go ahead, tell me. Last I saw, it was 8+ and an NCAA record. You going to lobby the NCAA to get you a trophy for that, seeing how you don’t have much hardware in the Championship department anyway to display? Seriously, how many Croc players have more arrests OFF the field than they have tackles, sacks, receptions, etc. ON the field?
Here’s another great father that was part of Urban’s 1% of 1% of the key acquisitions in his first year in Shitsville – AVERY ATKINS. You know what Croc? I’ll give Jeremy Finch a mulligan if you want – Atkins though, explain this one. Not only did the Father of the Year candidate punch the mother of his child 20 times, but each time she tried to escape he’d punch her and slam her face against the glass window of the car they were in. He was also arrested for having a bag of sticky icky, columbian bam bam and a stolen firearm in his ride. Maybe he got the “medicinal” herb from Jarvis “mary jane” Moss. Marijuana did him good, it helped his vertical jump enough to block the last second field goal that saved the Crocs ass against S.Carolina – when it was made public in a well timed manner AFTERWARD that he failed a couple of drug tests earlier but still somehow managed to play in that game. Or maybe it was Marcus “puff puff give” Thomas … in Thomas’s case, it was not only marijuana, but looks like the guy parties with GHB as well – nice. Brandon James and Brandon Powell were too stupid to hook Avery up with the drugs b/c they’re too busy trying to sell to undercover cops. At least the cops knew exactly who was selling them the stuff, considering Brandon James was wearing a UF jersey with his name on it … wow.
It’s sad for Atkin’s family that he passed (except for the mother of his baby, she won’t have to live in fear anymore of him beating her down) .. but at least they can be relieved his credit card wasn’t stolen and used to the tune of $3,000 by a fellow outstanding Croc after he died. I guess the Crocs have a moral code not to steal from their one of their own (unlike FSU) but stealing from the girlfriend of one of their own is okey dokey.
You’re beyond idiotic if you don’t question why your head coach brings in such outstanding student athletes (sarcasm included for free) .. and to hear his explanation of how he can’t figure out a kid’s character – if he could only text message the kids to solidify just how swell of a player he is getting. What a complete sack of sh*t he is. Coach Myth’s exact texting decision evaluation of a kid and his character would be the following:
U.Myth: “How fast is your 40?”
Recruit: ” 4.4 “
U.Myth: “You have a girlfriend that needs a scholarship? I can get her one if it means you’ll come here too”
Recruit: “Nope.”
U.Myth: “4.4? You’re a Gator :). You want to talk to Timmy? He’s right behind me”
Recruit: “I dunno. Don’t got much more to sell man – got only a few K’s left. 8 balls a plenty tho dawg. Need some White Owls to roll them in.”
U.Myth: ” ? “
Recruit: “Damn. Sorry coach. Sent that text to the wrong person.”
Urban: “I didn’t see anything. I forgot what I just saw. This will help me get instant amnesia about what you just texted though – what’s your 40 time again?”
Recruit: ” 4.4 “
Urban: “You’re a Gator :)”
Recruit: ” 🙂 “
I like also how Urban Myth uses the term “suspended indefinitely” – that’s Myth’s code word for “suspended for a game against a Div. I-AA school, until we need him to play in a game that matters”. You think it’s a coincidence that all these Croc players have been getting in trouble since Urban has taken over?
Croc fans amuse me, they really do. If both teams, The U and the Crocs were to completely put aside off the field issues – then what exactly is the history between the two teams? Say one day, both sides agree to not discuss anything but the record and games played between the two teams. Exactly. Shut your f*ckin hole Crocs, you have nothing on The U. You haven’t won a damn game against The U in over two decades. You’re 0-6 in the past six games you’ve played against The U. You’re 2-12 in the last fourteen times you’ve played The U. You’ve got 3 less National Championship hardware in football even though you had a 20 year head start on The U. You have ZERO National Championships in baseball. I will give you credit for basketball though, if I didn’t then I’d be about as idiotic as you all have proven to be .. well, even that is a stretch, I don’t think I could be that bad. And by the way, you’re not the first school to win two major Div.I titles in the same year in different sports … The U did that with football and baseball in 2001 – so what you did a couple of years ago wasn’t a first in NCAA history, only a first for winning in football and basketball.
And to the Ohio State fan – bro, shut the hell up. Seriously. You thinking highly of the Crocs is similar to an inmate who never talks bad about the guy that routinely makes him his girlfriend – you know you’re going to get handled every time you see them, so you just close your eyes, don’t talk bad about it and accept it. For a perfect example, call up your boy Maurice Clar-idiot, he’s in lockup somewhere and probably could give you insight on the matter. And talk about being completely sodomized by a single school – my god – you just go ahead and throw the soap down in the shower when you play the Crocs, don’t you? Look, I’m not justifying what happened against FIU b/c yes it was embarrassing. But that wasn’t under Boss Man Shannon – he even said that if he was the head coach at the time, he would’ve kicked the players off the team. I’m still not justifying what happened, but when you see an opposing player pull a spineless act like the FIU player Chris Smith did to the ‘Canes holder Matt Pirelli – with FIU player Marshall McDuffie Jr. running in and kicking him in the head .. order is bound to get out of hand no matter who he hell you are. You tell me how your beloved Bucknuts would’ve reacted if someone from the other team did that to one of your own, in a game already fueled high by trash talk on both sides. Funny also, on the same day of the Miami/FIU debacle, Ivy League school Dartmouth and Holy Cross got into a huge brawl after their game as well. Anyone remember that? North Carolina A&T/North Carolina Central 2007? Clemson/South Carolina 2004? Miss. St/Ole Miss 1997? Syracuse/West Virginia 1992? It happens – it’s stupid, but it happens. Under Boss Man Shannon, it won’t ever happen – ever.
By the way Bucknut, didn’t you have your legendary head coach throw a punch on his own sidelines at opposing player Charlie Bauman after he intercepted a pass from your legendary felon quarterback, Art Schlichter? Didn’t he also hit a LA Times photographer at the Rose Bowl in 1973 and also punch an ABC cameraman at the 1977 Michigan game? And you want to tell someone else how they embarrassed themselves? That’s your damn head coach pulling that crap. How about fast forwarding to the present, where in only 39 1/2 months on the job, Tressel had 13 incidents of 14 players getting into legal or disciplinary trouble – can you say the same about Coach Shannon? Since Tressel has been there, his boys have had underage drinking (which is excusable to an extent – it’s college), drunken driving, disorderly conduct, assault, falsification of a police report to theft, robbery, felony drug abuse, carrying a concealed weapon, trying to buy some love on the street from an undercover cop (which is also excusable to an extent if you’ve ever seen the hose-beast excuses for the female gender walking around C-Bus) – just a short list of troubles your have Bucknuts run into.
Piss off Bucknut, go kiss Terry Porter’s ass some more for winning you a ring and we’ll see you in 2010. Maybe you can try to keep recruiting great players out of South Florida to beat up on the Big 11 Conference – but chances are, Shannon and his staff (esp. now with Tim “Ice” Harris to add to an amazing group of recruiters headed by Coach Hurtt) will shut you out. I can’t wait to see the class that The U landed this year go up and lay waste to everything on your Bucknut field that isn’t a friendly to them in 2010. The U will salt the earth with your players.
Wealthy and Powerful Canes Alumni:
R. Fred Lewis, Chief Justice of the Florida Supreme Court
Francisco Angones, President of the Florida Bar
Frederico Moreno, Chief Judge of the Federal District Court for the Southern District of Florida
Adalberto Jordan, Judge of the Federal District Court for the Southern District of Florida (clerked for the U.S. Supreme Court)
Manuel Diaz, the Mayor of Miami
Marco Rubio, Speaker of the Florida Senate
I could go on and on . . .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_University_of_Miami_alumni
BTW, the Governor of Florida, Charles Crist, is a FLORIDA STATE SEMINOLE, NOT A GATOR!
It costs $30,000+ for a year’s worth of tuition at UM. I highly doubt that any CVS employees attend or attended UM unless you want to include members of the CVS board of directors or officers of the corporation.
All i want to say is… what about that beatdown the gayturds took from uga and michigan??!! i remember the mighty tim tebow pulling turf out of his facemask after getting hit by that freight train and these gator fans want to run their mouth about what they hope they can do to miami?? If michigan’s d-line/linebackers did that to tebow what do ya think miami’s line is gonna do? with playmakers like sean spence and arthur brown? i’m not saying we can’t be beat but it’s hard to argue the fact that we’ve owned their ass the past 6 meetings think before you speak gator-faggs!!
I’m a Gator.
Having said that, THANK YOU. Your article was spot on. I can’t find anyone else in Gainesville that sees the emperor is not wearing clothes.
You did forget to mention that he job hops to schools that have good players already… Alex Smith? Not recruited by Urban. The 06 MNC team? 21 of the 22 starters recruited by Ron “Never Given a Chance” Zook. And look at what he’s doing in Illinois… (But that’s another story)
For a good laugh, Google Meyer’s recently signed contract. Never seen so many clauses and fluff. Here’s proof he’s ready to jump: Only a $250,000 buyout (up from $125,000 in his original contract).
The guy is all smoke and mirrors. As a pshychology major, he knows the right things to say when the cameras and mics are on him. But there’s no substance.
The Michigan game was a joke. How many times can you run the same play? How many times are you going to run a 160 lb wideout up the middle? Having your QB run 25/game and what’s going to happen when he doesn’t get back up?
It’s not a great day to be a Gator when Urban’s driving the bus…
Mark S.
Gainesville
HOT DAMN!!! I just disvovered this site from that post that you left on ESPN.COM on the BCS snubs. I love it!!!!
Mark S, you are the first logical Gator I’ve encountered in 4 years of running this blog – and having LIVED in Gainesville for two years. Your honesty and logic is refreshing.
A few points:
Having said that, THANK YOU. Your article was spot on. I can’t find anyone else in Gainesville that sees the emperor is not wearing clothes.
You did forget to mention that he job hops to schools that have good players already… Alex Smith? Not recruited by Urban. The 06 MNC team? 21 of the 22 starters recruited by Ron “Never Given a Chance” Zook. And look at what he’s doing in Illinois… (But that’s another story)
Zook didn’t get a fair shake, but that’s part of the mentality of most Florida fans. They praised the guy when he was hired, but after a few 8-5 seasons wanted him canned – despite the talent he was bringing in and the direction he had things going.
For a good laugh, Google Meyer’s recently signed contract. Never seen so many clauses and fluff. Here’s proof he’s ready to jump: Only a $250,000 buyout (up from $125,000 in his original contract).
Nice call. Of course most Gators refuse to hear that. I didn’t even need to see his contract to know this guy is a job hopper and a ladder climber.
Florida fans are a tough bunch and the worst thing to happen to Meyer was a title in year two. The second worst thing was getting Jesus Christ Tebow behind center and a Heisman year one of his tenure.
The bar has been set and anything less than a title in 2008-2009 will have the natives restless and calling for the head of the man everyone in Gainesville was once praising. Bank on it.
If Florida has another 3-4 loss season this year, I wouldn’t be shocked to see Meyer gone next year. Especially if Tebow bails. If Tebow sticks, Meyer goes the following year.
The guy is all smoke and mirrors. As a pshychology major, he knows the right things to say when the cameras and mics are on him. But there’s no substance.
You won’t find anyone ’round here who disagrees with that sentiment. Meyer is chock full of soundbites and knows how to play the game.
My only hope is that the guy is eventually exposed and that the Gators stroking him someday see the light.
Thank for the post, Mark.
HOT DAMN!!! I just disvovered this site from that post that you left on ESPN.COM on the BCS snubs. I love it!!!!
Welcome aboard, CC. Help spread the gospel!
You lost all credibility when you said Webb, Caldwell, and Lewis were tooling around with machine guns.
I expect nothing less from a Cane fan. Enjoy your ass whipping in the Swamp.
LMAO, what a bunch of cane homers.
Randy Shannon hasn’t done anything yet. Wow, he recruited well… Hmm how hard is it to go get a ethnic coach and relate to South Florida kids proclaiming “change”? He still has to coach them up… He still was PART OF the regime that made the U into a piece of **** team. Randy Shannon has A LOT to prove. And he is most definitely more then one year away. Meyer has kicked off those trouble makers and is trying to get things straight. Hornsby, Avery, M Thomas, Ronnie Wilson, Jon Demps… etc, etc. You can’t keep thugs from being thugs. Every team has them, thats just how it is. When they f*** up, its what you do with them after that. Meyer has kicked off players which include people starting and good back-ups.
gatorfan85@email.com
If you want to discuss it more, email me.
Hey S Woodward, I totally forgot about the Woody Hayes debacle against Clemson. And this was from the HEAD COACH. You know how warped Luckeye fans are when there is a dialogue going on right now whether or not to spend 30k on a statue of the guy on campus. They talk about the guy like he walked on water. Please. Just mentioning the incident above that you did trumps anything that an OSU fan can EVER say about another program. And by the way, this blog should illustrate that The U has plenty of passionate fans which we don’t get credit for. I love it! Don’t come here talking sht and not expect to get squashed.
-Columbus Cane
You lost all credibility when you said Webb, Caldwell, and Lewis were tooling around with machine guns.
Ahh, yes. Let’s discredit all 16 incidents on Meyer’s watch because I wrongly added and extra thug or two to the mix. Would it have been OK if only 1 or 2 Gators were busted with guns? Get over yourself.
Throw that incident out — what’s your excuse for all the other crap your scumbag head coach allows?
I expect nothing less from a Cane fan. Enjoy your ass whipping in the Swamp.
… and we’ve come to expect nothing less from Gators. Excuses from UiF. What a shock.
Good luck whipping our ass. If you do beat Miami, it’ll be the first time since Huey Lewis topped the charts, Marty McFly was rolling hard in a DeLorean and Reaganomics were a way of life.
Slither back into your hole, Turd.
gatorfan85 – Nice work leaving your email address. Much ballsier than many of your cowardly counterparts who talk shit and then run away.
My thoughts:
Randy Shannon hasn’t done anything yet. Wow, he recruited well… Hmm how hard is it to go get a ethnic coach and relate to South Florida kids proclaiming “change”? He still has to coach them up… He still was PART OF the regime that made the U into a piece of **** team. Randy Shannon has A LOT to prove. And he is most definitely more then one year away.
Shannon didn’t get it done on the field last year. Agreed. That said, his off-season hirings and firings were impressive, as was this recruiting class. He didn’t stick by a dead weight DC in Tim Walton and went out to reel in Bill Young, who will have an immediate impact on this defense.
Walton’s D was responsible for a 27-0 halftime deficit at UNC… an inability to stop Tashard Choice in the second half of a 17-14 loss to GT… a 48-0 thrashing by UVA, where they ran the same three plays Tecmo Bowl-style – and Walton still couldn’t shut it down.
Walton’s departure and Young’s hire – that would’ve been the difference in about 3-4 games last year.
You’re also way off base with your assessment that Shannon was part of the regime that made Miami a ‘piece of shit’, as you say.
Shannon’s defense was a constant at Miami between 2001-2005. When it started slipping, it was due to a lack of talent and depth – which has to be blamed on Coker.
Look as some of the guys LC brought in. You really think Shannon wanted a Willie Williams or James Bryant on board if he were head coach? Never in a million years. Shannon goes after character kids and knows how to address the team’s needs.
Case in point, this year’s class — VERY heavy in WRs and LBs – which has been a sore spot for years. Same for QB. Coker couldn’t land – or develop – a quality QB to save his ass. Shannon saved last year with Robert Marve and landed three guys this year.
Once the depth returns, Miami will be back. The Canes have always out-talented the competition and have lacked the talent and mindset to do so the past few years.
Miami is two years out from being ‘in the hunt’ – but can compete for the ACC next year if all things fall into place. This year could be a 3-4 loss season IF Marve is all he’s cracked up to be and other youngsters step up.
Meyer has kicked off those trouble makers and is trying to get things straight. Hornsby, Avery, M Thomas, Ronnie Wilson, Jon Demps… etc, etc.
Meyer rids of kids who are disposable to him. Guys like Joiner and Moss, he won’t even suspend for the big game – let alone throw a guy like that off the team. Moss should’ve been out for South Carolina (where he blocked a FG and extra point) and Joiner had NO business starting against LSU last year. Absolutely bogus.
You can’t keep thugs from being thugs. Every team has them, thats just how it is. When they f*** up, its what you do with them after that. Meyer has kicked off players which include people starting and good back-ups.
You can’t keep thugs from being thugs — but you CAN keep thugs off your team by not recruiting trash.
One can also can all the one-liners like “1% of the 1%ers” bullshit, when Meyer is ABSOLUTELY recruiting athletes over character kids.
You reap what you sow and Meyer rolls the dice with some bad seeds, hopes for the best and then it’s ‘spin city’ if the kids go awry on his watch and he’s completely unaccountable.
How many of you guys were alive or taller than four feet the last time the Gators beat the Canes?
That’s a fun poll.
Wolf .. maybe you should send an email to The Gainesville Sun, Gainesville PD and the Independent Florida Alligator Student Newspaper and tell them that they lost all credibility when they mentioned Caldwell, Webb and Lewis were messing with machine guns – or as it was put on this blog, “tooling around”. Isn’t that what an AK-47 and AR-15 are? Was the proper term not used, that’s why your twat got all worked up Wolf? How about, tactical assault weapon – will that suffice? I dunno, I’m not exactly Charlton Heston or Rambo. I guess the story those two papers ran along with the report the Gainesville PD wrote after interviewing players and bystanders never happened. Now, would you expect that from your own hometown newspaper, police department and campus student paper ? How about it sparky?
“About 10 people, including Caldwell, Lewis, McIntosh and Tookes, had been at Webb’s apartment at The Cambridge at Gainesville, 3705 SW 27th St., on Feb. 11, according to police. They had been getting ready to go to clubs in downtown Gainesville. But before the group left, they were looking at the AR-15 and an AK-47, which Webb had recently purchased.”
“Officers spoke to Webb the same night of the shooting, and at that time he appeared intoxicated and told them “he had a million-dollar career waiting for him in the NFL and his lawyers would clear him of this,” a police report stated.”
– Source: The Gainesville Sun by Lise Fisher, Sun Staff Writer, Published: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 at 6:01 am
“GPD Sgt. Keith Kameg said the police were not contacted immediately, but later that night residents saw a group of men leaving the scene carrying what they thought was a gun case. The men were identified as former UF cornerback Dee Webb, who lives in a neighboring apartment in the complex, and current players Andre Caldwell and Reggie Lewis.”
“Officers arrived at Webb’s apartment and, looking through a sliding glass door, saw AK-47 and AR-15 assault rifles as well as a .38 caliber shell casing inside, Kameg said.”
“At the apartment, police called Webb and told him to return, Kameg said. Webb arrived back at the apartment in Caldwell’s sport utility vehicle, in which police found a .38-caliber revolver and a 12-gauge shotgun. Both guns were stored legally and registered to Webb, so no charges were filed.”
– Source: AlligatorSports.org by Andrew Abramson, Alligator Staff Writer, Published: Friday, February 17, 2006 at 12:00 am
So, you’re telling me that despite these reports from the Gainesville Police Dept., The Gainesville Sun and the Independent Florida Alligator – they’re all lying that Webb, Caldwell and Lewis weren’t messing around with an AK-47, AR-15 and there wasn’t a .38 cal and a 12-gauge shotgun in Caldwell’s SUV? Hmm. Well, guess I haven’t found the articles about the lawsuit filed against Gainesville PD, the Gainesville Sun and the Independent Florida Alligator for defamation of character or slander toward Caldwell, Webb and Lewis. Wait .. maybe because … it’s the f*ckin truth you assclown. My god, did you go to elementary school with and sit next to Channing Crowder in class and copy off of his work? Let me spell this out for you since you don’t know what it is you simple minded dolt .. “reee-surr-cha” … in big people language, it’s spelled “RESEARCH”. Please to God tell me you haven’t GHB’ed or Ruffie-ed one of your female cousins in order to pro-create … I beg of you, please tell me that.
Do I have a problem with Webb owning a small arsenal? Not really, it’s all legal and in his name. I really don’t know why he needs a .38 cal, a 12-gauge, an AK-47 and AR-15 .. but whatever. Maybe he thinks “Red Dawn” is actually going to happen one of these days so he wants to be prepared for when those Commies parachute into Gainesville and try to take over. Do I have a problem with guns being fired into a dwelling where people are b/c of someones drunken idiocy? Absolutely.
And what exactly is it with AK-47’s? That seems to be the weapon of choice of Croc players. It seems that’s how Ronnie Wilson rolls also …
“According to a Gainesville police report, Wilson spit on and slapped Francis Fuller during a scuffle at XS nightclub early on the morning of April 5. Fuller then waited for Wilson to leave the club. According to the report, Fuller drove behind Wilson and called 911 to report the incident in the club. After Wilson realized he was being followed, he turned into a parking lot, stopped his car, got out and pulled an AK-47 from the trunk. He then fired a shot into the air, according to the report.”
-Source: GatorSports.com by Pat Dooley, Sun Sports Writer, Published: Monday, July 2, 2007 at 6:01 am
Wolf – did GatorSports lose credibility also for reporting the truth? Wolf .. get that stupid look off your face, wipe the drool coming out of the side of your mouth and answer me … eh, forget it.
gatorfan85 – Meyer knows exactly who the f*ck he’s recruiting and what their problems are. I loved how he tried to say the NCAA is making it hard to find out what kind of kid he is recruiting b/c it’s limiting contact coaches have – including text messaging. Correct me if I’m wrong, but, didn’t Meyer recruit his 1% of 1% criminal crew under the old rules, and not the new ones that the NCAA has put out? Ya – thought so. Percy Harvin is a perfect example. The kid is banned forever from Virginia High School athletics in his senior year b/c he likes to throw fists in games with the other teams during basketball season .. he did it in his junior year as well .. not to forget pushing a referee and stealing trophies ALLEGEDLY from his high school. What does Urban Myth do? He has a choice to not even touch the kid – or – knowing he’s a f*ckin knucklehead, is willing to take the chance he doesn’t get into too much trouble on a Friday night – just as long as he shows up on Saturday afternoon with his 4.2 speed .. hmm. How about, sometimes it’s better to take a good kid in high school that runs a 4.4 instead of bad kid that runs a 4.2. So far, Harvin has stayed out of trouble, so Urban threw the dice and won on that. As for the others that he has recruited and made the police blotter – not so much, eh? What about this genius statement made ON TAPE by one of Urban’s 1% of 1% in his Senior year of High School … “When I walk around, people are buying me food, giving me money. I’m like, damn, I’m glad I’m Chris Rainey. It’s real nice to be me.” .. I’m sure it happens all the damn time, but how about not flaunting it out loud to the newspaper days before the State Championship game you’re playing in, when you know it’s being taped and the FHSAA clearly states that you’re not allowed to accept gifts. What’s the over/under on this genius becoming another notch on the belt made of Urban Myth’s players police report papers?
And you ask “how hard is it to get an ethnic coach and recruit South Florida players proclaiming ‘change?'” You think that if The U just went out and got any “ethnic” coach preaching “change” that they could’ve recruited the #1 class in the nation (in most publications) and locked down South Florida? Do you think they could’ve nabbed the #1 LB in the nation from Kansas in Arthur Brown b/c of some other “ethnic” coach preaching “change”? Go into heavy Croc territory in Palm Bay and get the #2 Safety in Ramon Buchanon? Go into heavy ‘Nole territory in Crawfordville and get the #7 Safety in C.J. Holton? Go all the way across the country into heavy SC Trojan territory and get the #12 Safety in Vaughn Telemaque? Why didn’t any other “ethnic” head coach land these kids? Tyrone Willingham went 4-9 last year – why couldn’t he land the type of class Randy Shannon did – don’t you think he preached “change” up at UDub? Ron Prince went 5-7 last year – why couldn’t he land the type of class Randy Shannon did with the exact same record of Randy Shannon – don’t you think he preached “change” out at KState? Bro, you have no f*ckin idea. These kids are coming to The U not only b/c Randy Shannon is a true ‘Cane who was born and raised in the 305 – they’re coming to The U because they know the history of greatness that stands behind the fiercest logo ever created. You understand that? Because Larry Coker sure the f*ck didn’t. Coker didn’t understand the goldmine of talent that was around him in his backyard and in the state. Coker was coming off of two National Championship games (one win and won robbery), arguably the greatest teams ever assembled of talent, 53-9 record heading into 2006, and still couldn’t recruit South Florida like Randy Shannon, Clint Hurtt and his amazing crew did this past year.
Was Butch Davis an “ethnic” coach? Was Jimmy Johnson an “ethnic” coach? Was Howard Schnellenberger an “ethnic” coach? They all understood what was around them and in the state of Florida. Sure, they recruited some kids from out of state – but the overwhelming majority of kids were from right here … just like now. These kids see the National Championships, they see the history, they see the success, they see the pipeline to NFLU – they come to The U because they want to bring it back to where the ‘Cane greats of the past busted their ass to get it to and they want to bring it back to where it rightfully belongs. It’s not just some black coach that preaches “change” – it’s a true ‘Cane from birth to the hearse that has taken over and that asks these kids if they want to be part of this vicious sleeping phoenix rising from the ashes. I’ll ask once again – if Ron Prince, Tyrone Willingham, Sylvester Croom, Norm Chow, Karl Dorrell, etc. got the job at The U instead of Randy Shannon – they could’ve pulled in the same type of class? That they could’ve locked down South Florida? They’re all as “ethnic” as Randy Shannon is, aren’t they? You’d be utterly stupid to think that any of them could land the class that committed to The U this past year. Those kids didn’t come here just because Randy Shannon is black, brown, white, yellow or red .. they came here because he’s true Orange & Green and they wanted to be part of The U Family.
And gatorfan85, last year was Randy Shannon’s first damn year of head coaching. Look at the records of Pete Carroll at USC, Bobby Bowden at FSU, Joe Paterno at Penn St., Frank Beamer at VTech, Bear Bryant at Alabama – in their first year. Randy already made a huge move in getting rid of his D-Coordinator and bringing in Bill Young after only one year. He also brought in Aubrey Hill (recognize the name?) for the WR’s. Don’t worry, The U will be just damn fine.
Bring everything you have on Sept. 6th. and try to take out over two decades of frustration out on The U. You’ll still be the insecure little twats you’ve always been, trying to constantly prove to everyone that you really do belong in the conversation of dominant National Championship programs. By the way, great job on defending your title this past year. Those two you have in football are pretty cute .. one more than Chicago University and one less than Cornell – props to you on that. You want to borrow one of the ‘Canes title so you can at least be in a tie with Cornell? Even in borrowing one from The U, you’d still have less – haha. Awesome. Well, maybe we can throw you an honorary title in something for Emmitt Smith winning in Dancing with the Stars. Make you feel any better?
If I ever retire, I’m giving this blog to S. Woodward. Not only would my man carry the torch, but he might’ve already surpassed my skills and knowledge.
Gators. Owned.
(crickets chirping)
Great article S.Woodward!!! These punk-ass gator fans got exactly what they deserved coming on to our blog and talking sh*t.maybe they should do a little thing called research(just like you said) before talking smack but then again when your used to getting bitch-slapped by the canes year in and year out you do develop some hatred…Keep up the good work cane brothers!!!!
Damn! Woodward brought down the wrath of God in that post. Don’t worry the gaytors fans will find a mature way to come back at you with something like the U sucks. The rebuilding is in the process and i can’t wait to see where we are 2 years from now.
-Joel
Time for Urban Myth to be a man and be responsible for once. Don’t make excuses and cry about the rules when they’re the same for everyone. Be a head man, be the adult and leader of your program and just say YOU dropped the ball. These things happened on YOUR WATCH. Don’t blame the NCAA. They didn’t recuit these guys by any means necessary and overlook their histories. Suck it up and try some discipline for once. Gator Fan, by the way, this is a Miami oriented blog so homers are allowed you dumbass. You better pray you beat us this year or you’ll never hear the end of it. We can take a page from The Outback Bowl and rough up Tebow. Get us this year while you can.
-Columbus Cane
Chris, I saw you commented on the Icon of the Programs comments section on espn.com. It’s so hilarious to me all the hate and venom Miami gets from other fans. It just goes to show how we are true giants in the college landscape. I’m sure we have more hate spewed on Miami’s section than any other program. It makes me feel good. ha ha. The blog here also shows it. Even a team coming off a 5-7 season strikes fear in their hearts for all the years we stepped on their necks and broke their hearts (except for FSU and UF – they have no heart). Ahhh, it makes me feel good.
-Columbus Cane
By the way, SEC coaches voted 9-3 to bring up the idea of a one day early signing period (which I support) sometime in November. The three who opposed? Steve Spurrier, and what a shock…..Urban Myth and Bobby “slick Willy” Petrino. The last 2 guys will do or say anything to sway a recriut from another school. I know a verbal is non binding, but a one day early signing day would help against foxes like those two. We’ve been burned enough the past few years. This is something that should be really looked at and hopefully passed at some point.
-Columbus Cane
Any Gators stumbling on this piece late, make sure to also reference the Andy Staples piece in Sports Illustrated from August 12th, 2008. You think I was hard on Urban Myth? Staples straight knocked Meyer on his ass with his piece. Gotta love it:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/andy_staples/08/12/fla.wilson/index.html
I personally love how people like to mention ‘the brawl’ without taking into consideration what actually happened. There were a half-dozen flagrant personal fouls committed by FIU against our players, which were not called by the officials and not retaliated against by our players. I don’t care what setting you are in, but if you see one of your teammates blind-sided and pummeled for no reason, and the perps are not immediately ejected (which they should have been but were not) you are going to step in and protect your buddy. Sure it got out of hand, but if you want to point the finger at anyone, point it at the incompetent officials.