A disappointing end to a disappointing season and Miami, true to form, performed like the Canes of 2010 when facing Notre Dame in the Sun Bowl.
Jacory Harris threw his first pick on his third attempt; yet another off the mark deep ball. Early second quarter, Harris coughed up two more picks in under two minutes, going 4 of 7 for 36 yards on the day.
Stats-wise, another outing where the box score was even. Miami amassed 405 total yards to Notre Dame’s 397 but coughed up four turnovers, while the Irish played mistake-free ball. The Canes were also dinged for ninety yards on 10 penalties, while ND had three infractions for 20 yards.
Arm tackling. Defenders falling down or playing out of position. The lethargic style of play which plagued the Canes all season carried over to the bowl game. If this was an ‘audition’ for new head coach Al Golden, this collective unit earned an epic fail.
Stephen Morris stumbled out the gate with an early interception, but rebounded and put together a 283-yard performance, going 22 for 33 with two touchdowns. Morris showed fire, passion and poise as he did late in the season when filling in for the injured Harris. But much like the loss at Virginia, the Morris rally came too little too late.
One has to wonder what interim head coach Jeff Stoutland saw that earned Harris the starting nod. Less than one minute into the second quarter, the Irish went up 21-0 after three Harris picks and Morris again took over after spotting the bad guys three scores.
Miami outscored Notre Dame, 17-12 from that point on, holding the Irish to four field goals – but down three touchdowns, never established a ground game, despite a slew of talented tailbacks. Damien Berry led the charge with 34 yards on nine carries, but the Canes’ longest run of the day came on an eleven-yard scramble courtesy of Morris.
Storm Johnson carried twice for 24 yards, Mike James had 14 yards on four carries and Lamar Miller racked up 13 yards on five attempts.
The Golden Era can’t officially get underway soon enough.
During the CBS broadcast, Gary Danielson echoed a point Golden recently made about a lack of leadership – stating that old school Miami would’ve had players in each others faces on the sidelines, demanding more out of their teammates and that really is the silver lining here. Coach Golden is going to end this bullshit and will change this entitled, lackadaisical, reactionary brand of football we’ve seen out of Coral Gables the past several seasons.
Another bright spot; the fact that Morris more than got a leg up on Harris in this spring’s quarterback competition. Morris again showed more poise, a stronger arm, better wheels and good decision-making – taking what was there and only forcing one errant pass.
Beyond that, Morris proved to be this team’s only spark – getting very animated after an early fourth quarter touchdown strike to Leonard Hankerson.
Yes, the Canes were still down twenty but that’s what you want to see out of your players. Fans can mail it in, feeling the game is out of reach – but you want a team full of guys battling until that final whistle. Morris is one of those guys and if Coach Golden is looking for someone to build this team around, his freshman quarterback is that guy. Besides being the better of the two quarterbacks, Morris also looks like this team’s best option regarding a leader.
Losing a third straight bowl game is a blow, but a lesser one due to the staff changes that were made at the end of the regular season. If Shannon were returning, there’d be little reason for optimism entering 2011.
Instead, Miami welcomes up a fired up Golden, with a game plan that’ll rid this program of its current sense of entitlement, lack of toughness and constant inconsistency. Golden may sound as polished as a CEO or politician in front of the cameras, but his northeastern blue collar work ethic will have him demanding more from his players than his predecessor. I have no doubt Golden and staff will have their collective boot up this team’s ass between now and September, doing anything and everything to instill a tougher culture at UM.
A disappointing win, but time to toughen up and get over it. There’s a reason these Canes lost five games entering today’s contest. Miami could’ve played like the team that showed up for Pittsburgh, Clemson, North Carolina and Georgia Tech, but instead came out like the mistake-prone, fundamentally-unsound bunch that crapped the bed against Florida State, Virginia and Virginia Tech. Consistently inconsistent and again, gaining steam late after shooting itself in the foot early on.
Take this 2010 team out to pasture and get out any last bit of frustration tonight as it’s a new regime in Miami and a few hours from now a brand new year. Wake up tomorrow with a cocktail-fueled hangover, not a Shannon-induced one.
Better days are ahead, regardless of today’s failed audition at a meaningless Sun Bowl.
Thanks for this commentary. This game really left a sick feeling in my stomach as I watched what once was a proud program get kicked around by a team that I hate more than any other. This type of performance is really getting old!
I will continue to support them since I have hung in with them for 30 years but I really hope this changes.
This your worst article of the year. Way to show the least amount of objectiveness you could. I used to look at your articles as someone who really understood things in football. But since the start of this year you have proved one thing without a doubt and thay is you right about a game you allcanes have never ever played. And if you did you were one of those players we let play in blowouts and on special teams.
You blame all four picks on harris yet you couldn't be more wrong. Three were on hankerson alone night fighting for balls and running wrong routes. Morris played a easy two deep coverage that any high school qb could beat. Harris was given no chance to succeed and if morris truely some how has the leg up then golden better have the class to let him transfer to any school he chooses. And that most likely means bye bye johnson streeter and thompkins. Because they were a package deal and have been dissed by you the media and the coaches at miami. Streeter proved though against a simple defense that he should have been on the field not captain drops travis benjamin.
Congrats your idiotic rants have made another fan ashamed of being a miami fan.
I hope I never see #12 on the Canes playing field again…. he is pitiful and so was the coach who recruited him. Moreover, it's time for old hag Shalala (not to say something else!!!) to leave as well as Kirby. Shalala could care less about the football program and Kirby seems out of tune, too. Until these three leave Miami will not have a winning season.
And I thought the 2007 Hurricanes were the worst team in recent history… Nothing more to say except that Jacory Harris probably should never see the field in a Hurricanes uniform again. It's not all on him, but c'mon man, after the 2nd INT, you need to pull him.
DISGUSTING loss… Almost makes you ashamed to wanna support the U…
I don't know… After seeing today's game I kept checking Twitter to see if there were any rumors of Al Golden quitting. Every year since we left the OB, it's the same story. We pin our hopes for a return to national prominence on one person. At the end of 2007, it was Robert Marve being touted as the next Miami savior. At the end of 2008 it passed to Jacory Harris. At the end of 2009, it was Randy Shannon finally putting it all together with his system and recruits in place for a run at Acc and national championship. Now at the end of 2010 it's Al Golden. The only problem is that he is going to have to do it with players that have been here since, you guessed it… 2008. It's going to be a really tall order. The most frustrating thing is if you look at the roster at the end of 2007 and there were a lot under achievers on that team. Fast forward to 2010 we have the same problem. Only now it's worse… I think to expect big things in Golden's first year is going to be unrealistic. We have been on this decline for almost a decade, and to think it can be fixed by 1 man in 1 year is by all intents and purposes similar to the definition of insanity. You know… Repeating the same thing over and over….? Unfortunately for Golden, he will not have the rebuilding luxury of time like Randy had. Good luck Coach! We're all gonna need it.
of all of the complaints about randy shannon i am quite disappointed in the fact that he wasnt even allowed to get his first recuitng class to graduate the only piece that shannon was missing was the ability to recurit kids with heart and passion in adversity but that could also come with age. i do know one thing the canes have lost the credibility of kids from the biggest area the try and recruit s.fla. strong black positive roll models are hard to come by and they never gave him a chance to succeed before they called him a failure 20 plus years of being the good solider and when given the oppurtunity to lead they cut him off at the knees before his first class can mature.
how many years has our defense been in the top 15 overall under his watch, and they just wash their hands as if he wasn't playng his part.
it seems as if what has made us a success in the past is the furthest thing away from where they desire to be know.
Golden is talking an NFL coach for OC … It will likely be Rip Scherer.
He interviewed for, and turned down, UVA previously. He's the current QB coach for the Carolina Panthers.
Panthers' O sucked this year, but evidently, dude is a good coach.
It appears that some of the players that Shannon recruited are not full of fire or desire to win. That is what this season has shown me. We all know there was talent but at this level you have to have the toughness and complete nastiness to win at this level and majority of these players don't have IT! I support Al Golden and hope he brings in the players that fit the mold to have the fire to win. Again the inet stars you see don't mean a damn thing people.
Agree on most of what you said. I had to turn it off. Being a fan and follower since 1980, the last couple of years have been a nightmare. There are too many good players to play like they have, Shannon never seemed to show much emotion either way. But the players have to play. I like Mark Whipple, but I don't think he had the QB to help carry out his plans. Better days hopefully are ahead.. Go Canes>>>>
4GET ABOUT IT….MIAMI BEGINS NOW!!!! WELL WE HOPE!!!!!
I think you're right. Golden will do what's needed. Leadership has been missing; better days are ahead. Thanks for putting it in perspective. There are still many TRUE Canes fans out there…looking forward to next season.
It's tough to think of anything wrong with this post. The 'Canes really crapped the bed today. It's tough to be good when your coach gets sacked, but they should have done better than they did today.
Morris offers a ray of hope, and since Golden isn't Shannon, there's always a ray of hope at the Head Coach spot, but I've got no reason to believe he's The Guy.
These are the times that try men's souls.
Gotta say, I saw this coming. These kids had no fire all season long and I didn't expect any fire from these kids with Shannon gone. I expected a little more from our seniors since they are the ones hoping to get drafted but even they were disappointing. I've had some time to soak in this loss but I have never been so angry while watching a Miami football game. I was even more angry than the FSU beatdown on our own turf. There was no execution anywhere for Miami, even with special teams where we have the huge advantage. Jacory has now proven without a doubt that he does not deserve to ever start another football game. Stephen Morris is our guy and now I have a #12 jersey in the closet that won't move for another year. It amazes me how a QB with almost 2 seasons as a starter seems to be moving backwards rather than improving with each game. But as angry as I've been with Jacory and the offense, I'm even more pissed about our D. This is supposed to be our best defensive squad since the 2000-2002 days of dominant Miami football! Our defense looked like a high school team against a 3 game starter and an offense with only 2 big weapons. I thought the arm tackling was gone but I was wrong. McCarthy once again proved that he is not worthy of an NFL pick and Brandon Harris shouldn't even bother finding out where he is projected to get drafted cause it won't be round 1 like he wants. Al Golden has a lot of asses to kick and he needs to bring only two things to this team to get us back to the big game..execution and passion. Once again 305, a great blog and I want you to know I even have the Allcanes blog as my homepage. Well, I got my anger out and here is to a new year of Miami football with the Golden boy.
Go Canes.
allCanes – I want to believe … I really do. But I can't help but think the problem for Miami is more than just some "bad play." Mediocrity has become institutionalized at UM. Golden may come in and yell and scream and stomp his feet … but it is the intangibles inside the players that turn those inspiring words into deeds on the field. I'm sure Coach Stoutland was yelling and screaming and excited before this game, and look where that got us.
Frankly, I don't believe that there is a lot of talent at Miami. This team will be mediocre because its players are mediocre. They don't have the leadership or burning desire to win or develop themselves into better players.
I think it's more likely than not that it will take years – if ever – for Miami to once again field a championship team. And if so, it will be a fluke – an accident of recruiting.
Maybe I'm wrong – and believe me, I do hope I am – but I've seen nothing to make me believe otherwise. Yes, Golden is saying all the right things … just like Stoutland was before the Sun Bowl. And I'm sure he's working hard and wants desperately to succeed. But there are cultural and institutional issues that run very deep, and are a strong headwind against any meaningful change.
Only time will tell, and here's hoping I'm dead wrong.
Happy New Year!
allCanes – PS: Thanks again for the great work you do covering the Canes! Your team is the best and I wish all of you happiness and success in the coming New Year!
I'm glad the seasons over. Painfully to watch the Canes give it away early on turnovers. As you point out, the bright spot, if there is one, is that this team has great players. To me the bottom line is,had Morris started we have a decent chance of winning. Agree in general regarding leadership, but when you throw three picks right out of the gate it's tough to talk your way back into the game. Vince Lombardi won't be able to coach you to a win if your QB is an interception machine. The good news is Golden knows this and it is obvious Morris is and should be the man next year. This is a team sport, but Qb play can singlehandedly change everything. I feel bad for Harris but at this point it is what it is, time to move on.
I'm optimistic about this teams future. The coaching change was necessary and all we have to hold onto now is knowing there is going to be a new look and hopefully new attitude at the U. I'll still do a double take when we line up in the 3-4 base defense.
Happy New Year. Go Canes!
I have said it in the past and I'll say it again. The Miami offense makes playing defense easy. Watching yesterdays bowl game, I could tell you right where the ball was going before they even snapped the ball. Whipple has one of the most predictable offenses out there. If I can call the play before snapped, you think these other coaches and players on the field can't? Yes, its up to the qb to not throw the pick but it makes it a little harder on them when the defense reacts to the play correctly EVERY play. And this was only a 7-5 ND team. Golden has his work cut out for him in righting this ship but I am confident he can get it done and sooner rather than later. I just hope yesterdays game erased any thoughts he may have had about keeping Whipple as OC. He has got to go!
I guess after seeing the final score, "luckily" I had to work and did not get to see the Canes not show up yet again. It seemed the players were ready for the season to be over more than the fans. I was mad enough just seeing the lowlights. It's time we face facts and realize Jacory is a turnover machine. It's Year 3 for him and he's the same player repeatedly throwing picks and killing the team as he was the previous two years. If he can't take care of the ball he needs to sit and be the backup. It's just how it is. I like the kid, but he doesn't take care of the ball and doesn't seem like the leader he should be at this point.
We need kids in here who WANT to be her and who WANT to put in the work and be great.
Looks like we are losing Aubry Hill as well which hurts only on the recruiting side, as his WR's underperformed, aside from Hank. He had the recruiting contacts and relationships which will hurt losing but hopefully Golden can find someone better anyway. This class is small and he seems to have his gameplan on what players he wants already anyway so I think we'll be ok in the short term. In the long term we still need someone with South Florida ties.
Now that I am thinking about it, I don't think the Hill loss will be that big, seeing the pitiful state of the class before Golden got on and burned the midnight oil to get more recruits to verbal. We need both players and coaches who WANT to be here. I can't fault him for going since he played up there anyway. Let's get behind the guys who want to be here and turn this thing around.
Columbus Cane
great. summary! A year of entitled players….cry baby kids! Ryan Hill sums it up in the palm beach post. He said some of his teammates are immature and golden needs to weed them out. That was Randy's team yesterday. Those players that are still disappointed about his dismissal, just watch the film!
Thank you! Excellent blog and you have put in print everything a lot of us fans have been thinking. I was not sold on the choice of Golden but if he can really push forward and make the players be accountable for their actions or lack of on the field then I will get behind him whether the team wins or loses. It's about time these players prove to their leadership and themselves why they deserve to start or even play on game day. The is no entitlement, right of passage in team sports. So, here's to 2011. Go Canes!!
Very well said. Most impressive post I've read on this blog. This is how Miami needs to be analyzed, with brain and not heart. Love for the University of Miami will never diminish, but that 2010 team and their lack of passion, heart, fundamentals, and discipline… must not be acceptable and must change.
With Whipple gone and Aubrey Hill gone (good riddance – I'd rather have a coach making these kids better than a recruiter who racks up studs and doesn't develop them) Al Golden has an opportunity to turn this team around and give them an identity different than 2010.
I, for one, cannot wait to see what he can do.
Nice rant, dscott. Too bad nobody out there agrees with you, brother. Not even Miami's new coach:
Here is something else Golden had to have seen on Friday: His future quarterback.
The stark contrast in the performances of Harris and replacement Stephen Morris seemed to leave little doubt that Morris will — and should — enter 2011 with the starting job his to lose.
Harris, of the interception tendency even more pronounced than Chad Henne's across town, suffered three in only his first seven pass attempts in the Sun Bowl before interim coach Jeff Stoutland wisely benched him.
In came the sophomore-to-be Morris, and the lift he provided was palpable. On a bleak, wintry day when a sea of fans' black overcoats ringed the whole stadium with a somber, funereal hue, Morris popped onto the field flashing color and throwing sparks.
Though he too threw an interception, he also completed 22 of 33 passes for 283 yards, despite a slightly sprained ankle.
"I didn't want to make my ankle an excuse,'' said the kid.
He tossed fourth-quarter touchdown strikes of six yards to Leonard Hankerson and 42 yards to Tommy Streeter.
Golden, watching, watching, tactfully spared Harris but did not hide the positive impression Morris was making.
"I'm sure not displeased with what I've seen Stephen do,'' said the new boss, smiling. "It's encouraging. He has moxie. Seems to have leadership. Can create with his feet…''
Obviously your Al Bundy-like success on the high school gridiron didn't teach you what's blatantly obviously.
Harris' first pick: Hankerson could've fought harder for ball, but it was GROSSLY overthrown.
Harris' second pick: Came one play after a high, off his back foot pass that he was lucky Cleveland came down with … next play, a horrid short-armed pass with zero velocity that Smith (#22) broke on and snatched out of the the air. Absolutely 1000% on Harris and not Hankerson.
Harris' third pick: Three f**king feet behind Hankerson before he even broke on his route.
You are a Jacory bleeding heart, brother. A blind man could see that Morris has more velocity on the ball, a better head on his shoulders, more mental toughness and is a gamer.
Beyond that, he's a sophomore with upside and three more years to play, while Harris is a broken senior.
At least Morris can beat two man deep coverage. Harris can barely hit a wide open receiver, floating his passes, taking days to get to his man.
FIFTEEN f**king interceptions in TEN games this year and a mere fourteen touchdowns. 4 of 7 yesterday for 37 yards — his three 'incompletions' going into the hands if Irish defenders.
Great call, guy.
This has been a very frustrating season. The '08 recruits have no balls! I admit, I was thrilled with that class coming in and thought they would bring the U back. Apparently, they thought if they take the field the other teams would lay down. They don't tackle, they commit tons of penalties and they turn the ball over like it's radioactive. I believe in Coach Golden, he seems like a hard worker and someone that won't tolerate lazy,undisciplined football.
LOOKS LIKE FLA. IS GETTING WEISS AS A OC… IT WOULD BE COOL TO GO AFTER MIKE LEACH OR SOME BIG NAME FOR OUR OC…IT WOULD ALSO ATTRACT RECRUITS..BUT WE ARE BECOMING LIKE THE DOLPHINS AS OF LATE WITH BAD CHOICES AND POOR PICK UPS..WITH COACHES AND PLAYERS!!!!! WE NEED TO AMP OUR IQ IN THE DECISION DEPT…..MIAMI 4EVER ANYWAY!
once again you prove my point. You've never played there for you can't understand the little things hank ran the wrong route he was supposed to sit down in the zone that was the read any one who has ever played qb can see that.
As far as my al bundy like success lead to two state titles buddy so apparently I can read coverage. I could have thrown those two balls for touchdowns and I have not taken a snap in years.
Morris will give miami two good seasons at qb in miami. That's a given but when it has come to morris having to beat a good defense he looks lost just watch the vt and usf games again.
I'm gonna laugh my ass off when harris wins the job back in the spring and you once again have to eat your words.
By the way some cane faithful you are you said in your last blog that u picked against miami. Nice dude. You can get off the bandwagon now. You and beast preech be apart of the solution not the problem too bad you two are the biggest problem coming out of the media.
Oh here we go, another superfan on the J-12 bandwagon!
Hey DSCOTT, if you could make those throws without having thrown a ball in forever, how come your buddy Jakory couldn't?
Look across the board at Harris' play this season and it's been erratic, lacked confidence and has been a trainwreck.
To your point, fine, if Hank shoulda sat in the zone on that one pick, what about the other two? The first one he overthrew the receiver and on the second his noodle arm left the all hanging too long, so the safety broke on it before Hank even saw it coming.
Go back and watch Morris against Georgia Tech. His ability to fire the ball to his receiver is what sprung Hank for the long touchdown. Conversely, Harris' completion to Byrd yesterday was the opposite. Byrd was tackled immediately after the catch because he had to wait on the ball to arrive, allowing the defender to descend.
You don't have to have played high school to see that Stephen Morris has more upside than Jacory Harris. Anyone who's followed the Canes this season can see one has clearly outplayed the other.
On a serious note, I'd really like to know why the defense of Harris? I have nothing personal against the guy, but you sound like Randy Shannon, blaming receivers and putting none of the onus on a rattled quarterback. Please elaborate.
Happy New Year! The Golden Years are here!
Steve Lawrence
Ft. Lauderdale, FL
dscott – You win. What do I know. Jacory is the man. Golden is a fool if he chooses Morris.
dscott, your inept analysis is the saddest thing I have been subjected to so far in 2011. You need to take your blinders off. Even Gino Toretta said it yesterday, "Just because you have a guy going deep doesn't mean you have to throw it deep". Harris cant stop himself from throwing picks. Coaches are not to blame for that, Harris' is. Its just that simple. Watch the games objectively please.
Apparently, Whipple is gone and that's a good thing.
Does anyone think it would be possible for JH to suck more than he already does?
He's got to be ND's MVP of the game.
They could not have done it without him.
He really needs to focus on getting his degree, because he will never play at the next level.
The fact is he really can't play at this level either.
Anyone that thinks otherwise is just plain stupid.
JH is the reason why we lost to USF.
That's unacceptable.
There were a couple of things that I saw that were very encouraging.
Timeouts were not wasted.
When was the last time we saw that?
Also, I was very impressed with the effort put fourth for damn near 15 minutes. Outstanding!
It's also interesting how during the last few years, Navy football has owned ND and Miami comes and performs like this.
Oh well, what can you do?
The Al Golden era is here and if nothing else, the U should at least become competitive again.
There is nowhere to go except up.
dscott, the only thing proven here is that you have an unexplainable allegiance to the mistake prone and backsliding Jacory Harris.
I don't know about AllCanes, but I played my share of ball growing up in TX and the majority of Harris' mistakes come from him looking down receivers making poor decisions and his arm unable to do what his brain wants it to.
Like Al Golden said, Stephen Morris has moxie and leadership. He is the guy you build a team around. Harris is fragile in stature and mentally, too. Stick a fork in him as he's done.
dscott,
I'm amused by your armchair quarterbacking.. You mention how you could have made those throws and you won 2 state titles.. Why are you not playing at the next level then ? If it were a long time ago, then how come you're not known ??
Harris owns the school INT record in less than 3 full years. He currently has 39 INT's in less than 3 full years !!!
You can't say shit my man.. That's not all on the receivers.. That's on him.. He chose to make those choices to throw those balls. If the receiver's are constantly running the wrong routes, I'd be taking off on the run and saving my own ass.. Just because a pass play is called doesn't mean the pass is needed.. He doesn't have the arm or the instincts.. Those are not opinions, those are facts.. Numbers don't lie.. He has 15 INT's this year alone and he missed 4 full games..
Harris is garbage and so is the staff that picked him.. Those are the facts and sometimes the truth hurts.. Get over it..
🙂
Dscott, I think as you can see you are the last jacory supporter standing. You're like the GM who can't admit the guy you picked was/is a mistake. Many of us have played the game at a high school level but that doesn't mean that qualifies you as expert. The tape doesn't lie and the stats prove it even more. Miami's best offensive outputs of the year came with Morris at the helm. So you have your opinion that is based on your unqualified assessment and the rest of us have facts and film and a quote from the only person that matters, Coach Golden. Give it a rest please.
dscott – I mean this wholeheartedly, you're kidding, right? This is some form of a ruse and you're like one of those moles who infiltrates message boards, just starting shit for the sake of starting an getting fans fighting, right? There is no other logical explanation for anything you've stated above.
Beyond that, you're chest thumping over your high school quarterbacking skills is a joke. You don't have to play football to understand the game. I've played drums for thirty years but that doesn't mean a non-musician doesn't have the ability to analyze music. You can think a movie was awful or was poorly acted without yourself being a thespian.
I pulled for Jacory Harris from the get go and hope the kid can turn it around, but the writing appears to be on the wall that he lacks the mental and physical toughness to be a solid Division I quarterback. Maybe he could thrive somewhere with lesser expectations, but he is undoubtedly crumbling under the pressure of being the top dog at UM.
Like you, Harris too was a great high school quarterback but those skills haven't translated to the collegiate level.
D Scott is obviously either RS in disguise or one of Harris' siblings. It's the only way he can really think Harris will be the answer next year. Harris has regressed more than any player in recent memory. It's staggering.
I hope Harris sticks around, but if he and any of the other sissified mammy's boys want to transfer, good riddance.
Ok I'll take on everyone no big deal. For the guy asking why I'm not know because I'm from a very small town in idaho and yes it is a state not just the weird land where blue turf comes from. I chose baseball over football because I had a 90 plus fastball and loved the game more that's why I'm not know.
Ok I'll take the arm chair qb comment to. Yes its easy to see a simple coverage on tv and knowing you've beaten it before and comment on it. What I was commenting on for allcanes before he bowed out like a girl would and tried to use sports writers as his cover that its easier to beat simpleb coverage in a blow out than it is to beat the whole playbook after you haven't see coverage live in four plus weeks. And now practice is not the same as game so anyone who says that is a fool.
I defend jacory because the picks weren't his fault. As far as over throwing rewind your dvr and look again it was right there where hank should have made a play just like floyd did for his qb. The second hank should have gone after the ball instead of waiting so I will go 50/50 on that one with blame.
I love fans that only look at stats instead of plays so when morris puts up 20 picks next year I expect the same comments from you guys.
Allcanes I love stirring argument and that's all I'm doing hell we only have like ten months til the season starts so I'm just helping pass the time and if I can prove how your lack of experience on the field pokes holes in your logic then I'm gonna do it for the next ten months.
Go canes
DScott – Bring the thunder, bro. Everyone is welcome here and we all don't have to share the same opinion. You see it your way, others see it their way.
I'm sure there's some merit to what you say about receivers running wrong routes and not everything being on Harris … but I'm sure as an athlete you can also acknowledge the kid doesn't have the 'it' factor and as a junior is making freshman-like mistakes. The growth simply doesn't seem to be there.
Your commentary here is appreciated and welcomed. Keep it up, regardless if others agree or not.
I DON'T BLAME JACORY HARRIS, BECAUSE THE RECEIVERS HAVE DROPPED SO MANY BALLS THIS YEAR WHEN HE THROWS PERFECT PASSES, SO NOW HE LOBS THE BALL, AND THEY STILL NO EFFORT TO CATCHS THOSE END RESULT INT. #2 WHY ISN'T 6'6 225 TOMMY STREETER STARTING TRAVIS BENJAMIN 6'0 CAN'T CATCH A BUS HIS A DB #3 FIRE O.C MARK WHIPPLE AND HIRE MIKE LEACH AS THE O.C GIVE OFFENSIVE GENIUS A CHANCE. I MISS WATCHING THE CANES BLOWIN TEAMS OUT
Allcanes I will give you that. He has lost that it factor he had as a freshman and most of the sophmore year before the decline toward the end. But I think the it factor he had ran off of the goofy haircuts shoes and clothes that he used to wear. Where is that stuff now? Who told him to get rid of it. My high school and now personal pitching coach told me once if you have something that makes you tick don't stop doin it if you start to struggle. And I think j12 needs to get back to that. Be the goofy kid that he was and enjoy your last year of football at miami.
I also think he may benefit majorly from having the hard ass coach that everyone is sayin golden is. Maybe him gettin in harris's face about errors will get him back on track. I know almost everyone has counted him out of this qb race but there is always something special about being the under dog.
One more thing I'm not gonna back down from everyone who won't agree with me. Don't worry they and you allcanes will always have someone to argue and debate with.
Once again UM sucks and they need a total make over! The players need to quit trying to live off of history! You will never be the as good as the 80's Hurricanes that Jimmy Johnson Coached and the most hated team in the history of college football! The whole team, administration needs a complete makeover!
Dscott-
Why is it that receivers seem to run the wrong routes only on Jacory's watch? I say that somewhat in jest.
If his pics were attributable to some sort awkwardness in mechanics/delivery, then I would say give him a chance after Golden gets him some good coaching. However, Jacory throws ill-conceived long balls and floaters…he has never been able to correct this. The word to focus on is ill-conceived. In the heat of battle, he is an extremely poor decision maker and that is impossible to overlook. While a coach is the commander-in-chief, the QB is the field general…good executive decision making skills is a must. The QB has to be the smartest guy/coolest cat on the team. Morris may not have the greatest toolset but the kid has pocket presence and makes extremely prudent decisions (especially when you consider he's still in his infancy). When you look at McElroy and Dorsey these guys don't have the best arm/feet but they are/were stud CEOs on the field. While it his hard to think about anything else other than Newton's talent, he is, first and foremost, an amazing decision maker because on each down he has to weigh his throwing options AS WELL AS his running options…the guy always seems to make the wisest choice.
I do think your statement (which I skimmed) that Streeter and company would leave if J12 transferred is pretty ignorant. They were a "package deal" when they were being recruited…the ebb and flow of the world has changed much since then…transferring is a much harder thing to do than just picking ur school as a high school player. Besides if they wan't to leave, so be it…it'll make the weeding out process that much easier…I would love it if the weeds in my backyard just upped and left.
I will say that I do not think that Jacory received the coaching that he needed. At this point, i think it's too late…as with any important skill in development there are critical periods/windows…his window has closed. I do feel bad for him…but I feel worse for the rest of the team who he has put in tough spots all season long.
PS Be honest.. are you Jacory's Dad? =)
No real disrespect intended.
L-Train
Wow 36 comments with people just as pissed as I am. I wish the players on the field were as fired up as this discussion is. I saw nobody getting into anyones face… all I saw were a bunch of hurricane players that looked like a bunch of crunched up turtles… If Ed Reed or Ray Lewis were on this team they would have literally killed someone on this team. Leadership needs to start now! I am so sick of these kids walking into the school and put on the helmet with the "U" on it acting like it will make them a #1 draft pick. As much as I hated watching the game yesterday, I am glad we lost the way we did… This is wake up call and I hope this program gets the point. It sucks enough that we are the ONLY team in Florida that lost out bowl game… man recruits love that! FIU, USF, UCF, UF, FSU… all these schools won their bowl games, and you know what WE ARE BETTER THAN THEM! we shouldn't fall behind to schools like that! LETS GO! lets bring in the Golden era and win some games!
Also don't blame this on Shalala, I don't care if you think her primary goal is to make this football team better, because it's not… Her job is to make this school (not football team) one of the best in the nation… and she has done a great job at it, since UM is the #1 school in the state. In the end that is what matters. On top of that she has pushed for our football program to be its best.
Dscott,
I wish you were right! I would like to see Jacory make the turnaround that Yates made for UNC!
That said I just don't see it happening! I side with Allcanes on this one!!
Go CANES!
Cant we all get along?
Although the popular consensus is to disagree with Dscott, his arguments will raise a couple of questions . I think the main point that he was trying to emphasize is that football is still a team game, from the coaches to the players on the field and it shouldnt be all pinned on Jacory. Hank said himself that they were not on the same page. However, if the offense is still not on the same page after 2 years is that the coaches' fault or is that the players' fault? Should questions like this even be asked after running an offense for 2 years? Hank will get the benefit of the doubt though because he's All-ACC and a school record holder but that doesnt make him exempt from some of the blame. Also, Notre Dame was already up by a lot when Morris came in and gave more time to some second teamers in the second half and pulled their starting LB when we started scoring and moving the ball.
AllCanes is right about Morris though. He has the intangible "it" factor and an attitude that is infectious which seemed to wake up the rest of the offense despite being down when they couldve mailed it in. This is from a kid who was running scout team O midway through the season. He will also talk smack on defensive ends after they hit him. The kid is tough and has a good arm and can make plays running or moving. Hell… Fans love that in a QB!
I am worried about our program though. Maybe the talent we have is overrated in some areas and this maybe a steeper hill to climb than we anticipated. If Golden is an expert with making more with less then we have the right guy.
dscott,
Fair enough.. The fact that not every throw is on Jacory is a balanced argument and I'll concede there.
And the only reason I asked why you're not known is because it is always easier to pick from a far. Like you, I have experienced success at the high school level. And I know how much easier it looks on TV than on the field. We see things on a full spectrum through the TV. We see the gaps in coverages, the shifts in zones, etc.. But standing on the field with very limited time to make a decision and execute it is entirely different. But the fact still remains that Jacory chose to make those throws, and the majority of them are high risk/high reward throws. Throwing down field for distances over 10-15 yards is statistically a low percentage throw. Why do almost "all" teams and play callers run the ball on second down ?? Because it is an odds favorite that the typical back (which gets 3-6 yards per carry) will get that average on that down, making 3rd down more manageable.
The same risk assessment needs be placed on the long throws. Those should only be made in single coverage, however Jacory has a gunslinger mentality like Farve and Romo.. He wants to be the "hero" in one pass or play.. It worked well in high school because he wasn't facing the level of defenses he does now and unfortunately our OC made it very predictable as to what our plays were going to be and what type of choices Harris will make during the course of a game.. It's easy to disguise a cover 2 and bring the safety over the top when you know the odds of the opposing QB forcing it deep on 1st and 3rd.. That's just how it was..
Jacory doesn't have the arm or the instincts to know when and when not to pull the trigger.. He's so used to finding success and being the hero in one pass that he doesn't have the self control to stop himself and he was never properly developed to change at this level.. It's great to be a gunslinger, because when you win, you win big.. But when you fall.. you fall hard.. There is no happy medium..
Morris is so much further along in his fundamentals, mechanics, and instincts that it pails in comparison (regardless of stats). INT's are gonna happen.. It's part of the game, but the good QB's can over come them through the course of a game or season by recognizing what the defense is giving them and adjusting on the fly.. This is what Harris has failed on over the course of 3 years.. That's a lot to over come inside one year when you have a younger, faster and more progressive QB on the roster that has more of the intangibles than the counter-part.. Morris is a natural leader, he's an emotional leader, and given the time to work a full term with the first team will become even better than this year. It's not hard to see those intangibles far outweigh anything that Harris may or may not be able to do better on the field with his arm.. Harris just doesn't have what it takes to be successful on a consistent basis because his coaches failed him and his progression and enabled him to fail by giving him a cushion to rest on…
read manny's blog
i had no idea this washttp://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/2011/01/for-canes-time-to-pull-the-weeds-out.html going on
DScott, let's say your right about the picks. What about the rest of the package? I see no leadership from Jacory at all. If his receivers are screwing up why isn't he in their faces? Where is the fire? Where is the passion? All I have seen is a kid with the same "robot like" expression that RS had on the sidelines. Never talks up his players, sits by himself puts his head in his hands, etc. And please, don't tell me that's his style because that just does not fly – it hasn't worked. Believe me, I so wanted this to be his year to shine and it did not happen. Morris plays with more passion and looks smarter on the field.
I would also like to add that anyone thinking any of the Juniors are just going to up and transfer is out of their minds..
I assume most of you thinking along this line of thought don't know much about NCAA rules and regulations. Student athletes that opt for transfer must sit one season at the new school before transferring (Robert Marve anyone ?) This rule applies to student athletes that have competed for one school for a full-term and plan to transfer to another school full-term. You may transfer to a Div. II school and make eligibility (Cam Newton) and then go back to Div. I the following year without staying out of playing. But you can't transfer from one Div. I school to another without sitting out one season.
Okb since your all under the annon name I will try to make it clear who I'm answering as best I can.
On the leadership deal I totally agree believe me we couldn't be more close on ideas about that. J12 needed to be in guys faces when it comes to running incorrect routes not just throwing his hands in the air. He needs to find that fire that pushed him during his fresh and half of the sophmore year grabbing guys and showing them the route they should have run. Yes he does need to be more of a leader and not having rs there should allow him to grow in that area.
Yes j12 is a bit of a gun slinger but he also and I've said this before has had the same oc and ran two almost three different offenses in the past two seasons. Last year the start of the season whip used james and coop and eventually berry to let j12 be able to be a bit of a gun slinger by bringin in offenses with play action because the run was established first. It worked very well in the three wins out of the first 4 games. Half way point last season whip did what whip does abandoned the run and put more on jacory to make more throws. This season whip did it again being a very much so throw throw throw and throw some more then run offense which you just can't do this isn't texas tech and the big 12 non defensive league. There are some very good defenses in the acc minus ours in the last game……to soon? In the bowl game whip should have put most of the game on the backs in the first half and then let jacory ease his way into the game. Did he do that of course not he did what whip does try to force it down field and it failed.
As far as not being on the same page that one is on stoutland. He waited way to long to name his starter which messes up timing. If he was gonna start jacory he should have named him that before they left. That way he takes all the reps with the ones and they get there timing down. I said that before on a previous blog and allcanes should be able to back me up on that one. Stoutland waited to long and you can't get timing in a day sorry but there is no way.
And to the L-Train no I'm not j12 daddy.I would never let my son act the way he does on the sideline. Why do the guys run the wron routes on jacorys watch I dunno as tb#3 he didn't even know the play at osu. That goes back to timing if you work with a qb enough you can see what he sees in coverage clearly that didn't happen at the bowl game. I still am gonna stick hank not reading the coverage right when its clear he should have sat down in that zone on that route.
Now as far as morris it factor yes he has it as long as the coverage is simple. If its not he struggles big time. The clear thing is that golden needs to bring a strong qb coach maybe dorsey vinny gino jim kelly steve walsh or an nfl guy maybe the likes of josh mcdaniel who did a great job bringin along matt cassel and kyle orton. A strong qb coach who is also firey might be exactly what jacory needs to have a great turn around senior season and its just gonna make morris and whoever follows him that much better. All I know is I hope the next oc whoever he may be better use the backs first and then the qb or we can't hope for anythin better than six and six.
Dscott
The Idaho Cane
Ps brandon harris you better come back.
The only guy that seemed like he had a passion to play in Green and Orange was Stephen Morris. Golden is going to whip these guys into shape, and everyone who doubts that is going to be jumping right back on the bandwagon when the team does good next year.
It's really hit me lately seeing how ex coach Shannon and company could not develop talent/players effectively. I don't even read this on the blogs?Examples- Sam shields plays for the packers, he was a dud (not his fault) at UM, shannon played him at the wrong position for 3 yrs Javares James actually plays with the Colts as we speak,he was not fully utilized. Jimmy graham doing well with the Saints catching TDs from D Brees as a rookie. Yet another one not that saw limited action. D Epps looks like Antonio Gates at times with the Chargers, what did he do amazing at UM. Another not developed. I can't and refuse to get over this one. This last year and half or so A Highsmith was our #2 qb??? Above Morris? If he did not get hurt who knows what would of happened. Late in in the year Shannon realizes he is better playing st DB? You have to be kidding me. And folks and players think Shannon was let go after losing to USF? What is my point? That staff had no clue/idea how to recognize talent. That piece is not that difficult and Golden wlll succeed in this dept or have folks around him that will!!
I just wonder if any of the players ever get on here and read any of these comments..I hope they do, because it is becoming a joke..By it, I mean the U..There was a time when every single team feared my Canes..We used to win games by 20-30 pts..A team like South Florida or Notre Dame would not even provide a scare for us..What happened?? People will say oh we got a new coach..Who gives a shit?? You could dig Vince Lombardi up and put him on the sideline and we still would be where we are..Its sickening watching ESPN and other shows where the commentators poke jokes at the U..What happened to the swagger and intensity?? Our QB looks like he is going through the motions thats it..Who cares about your stupid hair cuts and other bullshit…Show up and play the game the way the Canes are supposed to play..Are we ever going to produce top NFL players like we once did?? Will we ever win at least a conference title?? I would hope so before I die…For christ sakes get your heads out of your asses down there and play some fucking football like it should be played…The University of Miami or the U style of football..
It's really hit me lately seeing how ex coach Shannon and company could not develop talent/players effectively. I don't even read this on the blogs?Examples- Sam shields plays for the packers, he was a dud (not his fault) at UM, shannon played him at the wrong position for 3 yrs Javares James actually plays with the Colts as we speak,he was not fully utilized. Jimmy graham doing well with the Saints catching TDs from D Brees as a rookie. Yet another one not that saw limited action. D Epps looks like Antonio Gates at times with the Chargers, what did he do amazing at UM. Another not developed. I can't and refuse to get over this one. This last year and half or so A Highsmith was our #2 qb??? Above Morris? If he did not get hurt who knows what would of happened. Late in in the year Shannon realizes he is better playing st DB? You have to be kidding me. And folks and players think Shannon was let go after losing to USF? What is my point? That staff had no clue/idea how to recognize talent. That piece is not that difficult and Golden wlll succeed in this dept or have folks around him that will!!
I defended Jacory all season. I thought the OSU game was on the receivers. But as the year went on it just got rediculous. To argue simple defense or coverage is irrelevant. Regardless of what D a team comes out in it is the QB decision to use his ability and throw to what the D gives him. Morris is OBVIOUSLY better at that. (he throws to our team than the other). Morris has an excuse for his mistakes as he is a freshman with little experience. Jacory has no excuse. He was a junior and got worse since last year. He lobs it like an old woman.
Whipple was equally to blame in my book. I loved his play calling last season, but it got horrible this year. If you have a guy throwing more picks than TD's why do you come out slinging the ball when the run gets 3-4 yrds a pop. Gotta run BEFORE you pass. In the USF game at the end all we needed was a field goal, and your QB is a machine for INT. so whipple calls a throw. which is retarded. and Jacory is a junior that should be able to make the throw….but he didnt. they both are to blame for alot of the problems.
I do agree about some of the other WR. Benjamin is an awesome deep threat with good after catch ability, but why were Byrd and Streeter not in on more posession and shorter routes across the middle or curls….especially at OSU?? Benjamin saw to much playing time in my mind.
Out with the old.In with the New!
For about 2 seconds I was upset over the sun Bowl. But,
Out with the old.In with the New!
We can't get much worse so in my eyes any effort is better than the lax effort this team of underachievers gives.
Out with the old.In with the New!
Hope we're Golden Now!!!!