Below is our back and forth regarding the game, the rivalry and the general dislike between the two programs:
.:Ask A Hokie:.
I think the resurgence against the Terps had a lot to do with being at home, in front of our fans, in Lane Stadium on a Thursday night. The team seemed re-energized. Add to that the improved offensive line play and Maryland’s pitiful defense and it was a perfect recipe to get back in the win column.
On defense, I would go with the three defensive ends: Jason Worilds, Orion Martin and Nekos Brown. Worilds has had a coming out party the last two games and appears to be in line as the next great Tech DE. Macho Harris has had the year everyone thought he would at corner and the linebackers have been solid. But the ability of the defensive ends to get pressure on the quarterback has made everyone look good.
The problem I have with Glennon is that when his passes miss, they miss high. I think he’ll throw two picks against Miami and one of them is going to get taken back for a touchdown.
A loss for the Hokies doesn’t make it impossible to go to Tampa, but they would need Miami to lose both its remaining games and UNC to lose as well. So this is basically an ACC elimination game.
With a lot of Big East history preceding the move to the ACC, Miami holds a 11-9 advantage in the modern era of this series (since 1980) and it’s become fairly balanced.
Now that we don’t play the Couch Burners anymore, this is the No. 2 rivalry if you’re a Virginia Tech fan, just behind UVa. However, the Miami game has been more balanced and has brought out the competive spirit in Hokie fans more.
These two teams have been perfect foils for eachother for almost 15 years now. The Hokies are the hard-working, blue-collar team that is full of guys who weren’t heavily recruited. Miami is the team full of 5-star players who knew they were something special for most of their adolescent lives. Blacksburg and Miami couldn’t be any more different. Hell, Miami and almost anywhere else in America couldn’t be more different.
Because so much is usually on the line when the two teams play, you get a high level of football from both teams. I didn’t mind the Hurricanes as much when Coker was there because I liked the guy. Like me, he’s an Oklahoman with Oklahoma values. But, since Miami fired him, I’m free to loathe the Canes again.
.:Ask A Cane:.
Personally, I don’t think the Canes get to the ACC title game this year. Next year it’s a reality, but the two early season ACC losses will come back to haunt. A four-game win streak would need to turn into a seven-game streak and that’s asking a lot for a young, inexperienced team. They’re liable to slip somewhere down the stretch.
As for how this team has performed, I’ll reserve judgment until the season is over. The fact that Miami was able to rebound from a 2-3 start was impressive, as last year’s team would’ve gone in the toilet. The Canes are showing grit, determination and heart. That said, now is no time to let up. Wins against Wake Forest and Virginia were impressive, but Miami needs to ‘bring it’ against Virginia Tech (11/13) and Georgia Tech (11/20) as both have had their number the past few years.
Where this team has exceeded expectations is in regards to the freshman class. On paper, Miami knew they had some ballers… but to see these kids hit the ground running and play beyond their years, it’s been incredible. These freshman have single-handedly saved the season and have the future looking extremely bright.
The current system works. Start Marve, give Harris his reps and go with the hot hand down the stretch. Both these kids are first-year starters. Both need to play. Let them get through 2008 and come spring 2009, open up the competition again and see who wins the starting job. One of these guys will eventually separate themselves from the other. Until then, play them both.
If I had to rate them, I’d definitely go Harris as 1a and Marve as 1b – right now. Both are studs, but Harris’ composure and playmaking ability, it’s immeasurable regarding a true freshman.
Marve seems to have better wheels and plays more by feel than with his mind. Which has its benefits.
A two-headed rushing attack was so important for success this season. Miami has truly missed James and needs him these next few weeks if they have any shot at winning out. Back ups like Shawnbrey McNeal, Derron Thomas and Lee Chambers are capable backs, but none are proving to have that ‘it’ factor and there hasn’t been any separation between the back ups.
Next season Miami looks to reel in Kansas’ top-rated Bryce Brown, Killian’s Lamar Miller and Mike James, from Davenport, FL. Brown and James are your Willis McGahee-type bigger backs and Miller has drawn Clinton Portis-like comparisons.
The Canes ground game will get a huge boost in 2009. Finally.
Adewale Ojomo is a r-freshman who’s been a big time surprise and Miami finally has Josh Holmes back from injury – a member of the 2006 class who’s been sidelined most of his career. Dwayne Hendricks. Steven Wesley and Antonio Dixon have all played good football, but aren’t your dominant Miami lineman of yesteryear. Young guys like Allen Bailey and freshman Marcus Forston are more in that mold and should be superstars when it’s all said and one.
The Canes front seven will need to get some penetration on Thursday night. Too many times this year, Miami’s line hasn’t gotten to the quarterback or stuffed the run. Secondary is the Achilles’ Heel on this team and if the front seven doesn’t do their job, Tech’s passing game will thrive. Miami obviously also needs to hit Darren Evans behind the line of scrimmage. Evans isn’t really under the radar anymore after his monster game against Maryland.
Winning ways will make Dolphin Stadium feel like home, over time. The Canes need some signature home wins and to turn the program around. Once that’s done, the stadium itself won’t matter anymore. It was time for change. The Orange Bowl will forever be home, but the landscape of college football is changing and Miami needed a facelift. In the matter of one season, the Canes literally went from the worst stadium in the ACC to the best. Hard to argue with an NFL stadium that’s hosted its share of Super Bowls. The fans may miss the tradition, but 17-year old recruits love the JumboTron and fact they’re playing in a big time stadium. At day’s end, that’s what really matters.
Randy Shannon inherited the worst Miami program in three decades. Larry Coker was the first Miami coach to be fired in over thirty years. All others have left for greener pastures and left the cupboards stocked when they moved on. The Canes were a putrid squad last year, which is why so many freshman are starting and are so heavily relied upon. If you look at the team Shannon took over last fall and compare them to where they are 15 months later, it’s pretty incredible. He recruits like Jimmy Johnson and Butch Davis and it’s looking like he’ll develop talent like both his predecessors, based on the immediate impact the freshman are having.
If Shannon can get this team to 9-4 this year (after the bowl) or even 8-5, this year is a success and there’s something to build on. Miami can get to the ACC title game next year and after two more classes, I think the Canes are in the hunt with Shannon by 2010. This class will prove to be the foundation and when these kids are juniors and seniors, you’ll see the Miami you always knew and hated.
The Hokies definitely capitalized on the Canes’ probation in the 90s, winning five straight. VT didn’t get its first win against UM until 1995, Butch Davis’ first year when probation and a lack of scholarships crippled the program for the latter half of the 90s. Of course probation had nothing to do with the 1999 beat down, as that was the year Tech became a ‘player’.
Virginia Tech is again capitalizing on Miami’s mistakes – this time around a lame-duck head coach who left the program in shambles almost as bad as probation did ten years ago. The Hokies never seem to beat on the Canes when Miami is on a roll (early 90s and early 00s) but true to the blue collar mindset, they get it done and capitalize when given the opportunity.
This rivalry will get back to that next level again when Miami, Florida State and Virginia Tech are a top the ACC in the coming years. That was the goal when UM, VT and Boston College came over from the Big East. Since joining the ACC, the ‘big time’ teams haven’t lived up to the billing. Once you get the aforementioned teams in the top five, a la all the Big XII rivalries, I think you’ll see this one garner more interest on the national level.
For now, it’s Canes v. Hokies with a lot on the line and a modern day rivalry kicking up thanks to former Big East and current ACC ties.
The same way Virginia Tech fans hate Miami, the feeling is mutual. The two programs are nothing alike and I know Canes fans don’t care for the false bravado from a program that has had their number over the past decade, but still has nothing to show for it championship-wise.
There’s that belief that Virginia Tech will always be second-tier until they get some hardware for their trophy case.
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Very good chat between the two of you. This is one of the most mature correspondences I've seen in a long time. It's good to have respect within a real rivalry.
As a Canes fan, I always look forward to the level of competition provided by your program.
Your coach does an awesome job with his players and has them ready to go at game time.
I will be there Thursday night to give a warm Cane"s welcome to our new home.
Go Canes!!!
As far as hate for yearly rivals (so no UF), I'd rank them behind FSU in my book. I hate both, but always enjoy FSU taking a beating during the year. For some reason, the past few years we have let Tech out-bully us as I like to say this year. They work harder and want the win more than we have, in past years. Miami will beat Tech if we smack them in the mouth early and let them know it's not going to happen tonight. Stack the line and make them throw the ball. They can't win if they don't run the ball. We can't look like the Terps last week. Evans is good but he isn't 253 yeards good, and doesn't have that elite speed. But he gets the job done so far. Our front 7 need to create havoc and shut them down. We have to START the game FROM THE KICKOFF. We can't let them run wild for a quarter a la WF and expect to turn it on after that. Focus on stopping the run against Evans and Boone when he lines up under center and everything else is secondary. When they pass, they're looking for TE Boone. Also they like CB Harris on end arounds or screens. Other than that, don't worry about it. Stop the run and we win. I'll repeat my 2008 matra for The U: BE THE BULLY!
-Columbus Cane
Since the two programs are nothing alike, let me say it... THE HOKIES SUCK!!!...ooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO C A N E S!!!
Excellent interview gentlemen; the only thing missing was some predictions. Personally, I just have a feeling that Miami is going to show up Big Time tomorrow:
Miami- 20
VT- 7
As for the rivalry, for me it ranks high because I live in northern VA, where you have an equal mix of Maryland, VT and UVA fans. My top rivalries for Miami are:
1- FSU
2- UF
3- VT
If you want to know the teams that I absolutely hate:
1- FSU
2- Ohio State
3- VT
4- UF
5- Notre Dame
6- WVU
I actually dislike VT more than i dislike FSU, however, due to the fact that im friends with a few FSU fans and have to hear it from em every time we lose, id put the VT rivalry right behind the FSU rivalry.
I'd also add that although I despise the crimiNOLES more than Tech, I would have to say that Tech can be pretty dirty and take cheap shots when they can get away with it. They are known for having that blue collar work ethic, maybe since many of them weren't highly recruited or super athletic, but some of the dudes try to putposely injure players. There's no room in the game for that. You can hate a team, but respect them and don't try to injure them. Tech has crossed the line in the past.
I am a little nervous about tonight just because of what's at stake tonight, but I do think we're the better team. We've been in similar games in the past 5 or 6 years with a chance to make a statement, and laid eggs. I go back to a few years ago in the OB when a win would have had us in the lead in the conference and we let Bryan Randall somehow beat us in a low scoring game (maybe 10-7 or something). Tonight it's time to right those wrongs and show the nation we're on the way back.
-Columbus Cane
THE CANES DID IT!!!!!