It’s not a question of where the rumor starts as much as it’s about the fuel added to the fire and the harsh opinions formed before said rumor is a proven fact.
The latest topic beat up on the message boards yesterday; defensive assistant Micheal Barrow supposedly headed to Florida to lead the recruiting charge out of Gainesville and to coach linebackers for the Gators.
A day later, Barrow is staying put at UM and has been moved back to linebackers coach, after spending 2009 as an assistant.
Instead of sitting back, playing the wait and see game, Miami faithful took to the Intraweb to voice their displeasure with the situation. Some choice nugs posted online yesterday on various message boards:
“Why work for an unqualified lightweight at the U when you can work for the best in Gainesville?”
“This move was done simply by CUM for Barrow’s contacts with SoFla high schools. It was a recruiting move plain and simple. Shannon is toast.”
“One incontrovertible fact is it is hard for a team to gain traction when assistant coaches leave after one or two years. A new coach comes in and the team has to start at square 1 all over again. I don’t understand why Miami can’t keep its coaches around. Its hard to believe its just pay.”
“Good. He sukked as a LB coach anyways.”
“Sorry to say this but, it might be true because Urban is trying to hire another black coach. He only has one black on his staff rite now. He also needs to get someone to recruit S. fl, and Mike wants to further is career and not just be a assistant. Randy this is bad if you cant keep Mike B.”
“His specific job will be to come into Dade and Broward and take our kids. Not honorable. Guy cares more about a few extra bucks than the U. A true Cane would not accept that job. Either that, or he would and then literally derecruit kids he is going after. Eff Urban, and eff Barrow.”
“It’s a damn shame to see how much Shannons ego is affecting this program. I have been saying it all along. COACHES DONT WANT TO WORK WITH SHANNON.”
“Money obviously means more to Barrow than his core ties to Miami. Now you think “honor” is more important too? LOL. CUM hired him for one thing. To tell the kids the truth about the Miami program and Randy Shannon. I’ll take back the word “trash”. All he has to do is tell them the truth. How inept the head guy is. CUM will close after Barrow tell recruits the truth.”
“Meyer now has a former Miami guy who worked directly under Shannon who can relay to the kids how inept Shannon truly is.”
“First he gets demoted from LB coach to basically no real responsibility on the defense. Then Randy uses him to bring in the top talen nationally for visits b/c of his name recognition and then he gets passed over as recruiting coordinator. You think maybe he is fed up with being treated like a dog on this staff and is now looking for better opportunities elsewhere (even if it is with the enemy)??”
“I’m glad he is moving on. Just find it traitorous that he will now spend his time trashing his own university just for some extra bucks. Sold his soul. Not a Cane ne more.”
“Michael, you’re nothing to me now. You’re not a brother, you’re not a friend. I don’t want to know you or what you do. I don’t want to see you at the games, I don’t want you near my school. When you see our Canes, I want to know a day in advance, so I won’t be there. You understand?”
“I might hate Meyer, but man the guy is a genius. He’s now got the one thing he didn’t have. A former Miami assistant and Shannon loyalist who can now give props to the Gates and bad mouth Miami.”
“I can’t f*ckin believe this guy, I guess he didn’t save a dime of his NFL money, what a f*ckin Benedict Arnold. Go F yourself Bam Bam.”
Is it any wonder why Miami fans get such a bad rap nationwide? Nice work, superfans. Way to trash one of our own before the body was even cold. The rumor wasn’t an hour old before the hatefest started.
Barrow is Miami born and bred. A Homestead kid who came to The U in 1989, won two national championships and was an All-American his senior year, finishing seventh in the Heisman race.
After a thirteen-year NFL career, Barrow returned to Homestead High as defensive coordinator and came back to UM in 2007 as linebackers coach. Barrow spent 2009 as a defensive assistant, which according to Randy Shannon was done to help Barrow learn more about coaching the entire defense, possibly grooming him for a defensive coordinator gig down the road.
According to the Herald’s Manny Navarro, Barrow will be coaching linebackers again in ’10 and to date there’s no evidence that the former Cane linebacker even traveled to Gainesville, outside of a few premature Internet reports.
Anyone with an ounce of logic knows this was a power play. UF showed interest, Barrow – like any working stiff – responded in an effort to show his current employer that he’s a desirable employee. The result; a move back to coaching linebackers and probably a bump in pay. Safe bet Barrow had zero intention of coaching for the enemy… but played the game to jockey for better position at UM. The whole scenario played out in less than a day, yet the harsh words remain out their in cyberspace because some fans have no filter or patience.
Whether Barrow is on Miami’s sideline next fall, Florida’s or Homestead High’s, the reacting from the Canes fanbase was pathetic and it’s time for some folks to take some serious inventory. Message boards give everyone an outlet for their opinions, but sadly most commentary is knee-jerk, poorly thought out and nobody is held accountable for their brash, biased opinions.
For some idiots to state that the move to another sideline means Barrow “is no longer a Cane” – shame on you fools. A local kid that suited up for the hometown team, won two rings, did the program proud, played in the NFL and now coaches at his alma mater – he’s no longer part of the family if he takes another job?
Give it a rest, uber fan, hiding behind your keyboard bitching away instead of showing up for home games on Saturday. Barrow is more a Cane than every clown combined in a chat room on any given night.
To the mods at CaneSport and CanesTime, tighten up your game. The inmates are running the asylum and it’s time you remember that coaches, players, parents of players, alum, boosters and a slew of others are reading what a small percentage of this fan base are saying. Don’t let these people represent what for the most part is a stand up group of fans.
Weed out the morons and promote the words of those who do this program a service, not a disservice. Other message boards have their gestapos and it’s time Miami message boards employ a similar mentality. Enough is enough.
I hate visiting the CanesTime forums these days. The doomers have completely taken over, and there is no room for reasonable discussion. The mods need to step up, and the fans need to calm down, or the board will degenerate even further.
This Miami team has made huge steps the past few years, and there is far more to be excited about than there is to be frustrated about.
Exactly. I love how people continue to get at Shannon as if he has run this program into the ground.
Let's see: Consistent season ending record improvement – check. Firing the bad coordinators and hiring good ones (who thinks Whipple is NOT the right man?) – check. Filling recruiting needs rather than going after random five star flameouts – check. What more are we asking here? All this done after coming into a horribly jacked up situation with Coker's ouster.
It'll be interesting to see how many of these haters climb aboard the bandwagon when Miami wins the ACC or national championship.
Bravo, 305.
I am so sick of those thin skinned pu$$ies on CT and CS message boards. Doom and gloom is a gross understatement. They're a bunch of clowns who know nothing about football, or life for that matter.
Everything Randy does is put under a microscope. Anything that happens which falls under general rules of coaching and running a college football program, they lose their shit completely. My twelve year old daughter has more composure and a better grip on things.
Glad to see someone finally call out what's going on over there and not shocked it was you, my friend.
And a quick disclaimer, I am not saying everyone on those boards is a fool. There are a bunch of good writers and posters on the site, but sadly a small percentage of the ruh-tards ruin it for everyone else and give Cane fans a bad name.
M.H.
Win and there will be no hate. It's not like Randy has kept coaches around and it's so far fetched for this to happen. I agree it can look bad for recruiting though.
I'm not trying to lose friends, but we have the dumbest fanbase in the nation. I try to dissuade myself from that opinion, but the masses unceasingly prove themselves as shallow & dense.
These people give me such a migraine. There such a profound identity crisis within the ranks of Miami followers: the delusion that we are a major college program is deep & wide. I contend that we have been the illegitimate of college football since our beloved Schnell left us for the USFL. No one has stayed here past even a whiff of furthering their career; we win, we get bastardized.
But this omnipotent fanbase thinks we should go drop $5 mil on Brian Kelly because UiF could. Thinks the U gets recruits like a Federal Stimulus stipend. Thinks we should pack the house every Saturday because they do in Columbus. It's like we have to teach every single one of these clowns (as you suggested, 305) that Miami is much more than winning NCs, it's earning them–& above all it has never been automatic, plug & play, State U, media lovefest, keep up with the Mack Jones', clean cut or by virtue of getting more respect than we deserve.
I use every keystroke I can to out these small-minded punks. Solid post.
Post 1,853 railing against the message board fans.
When will you get that this is what most message boards are like? You get mob mentalities multiplied by the psychology of anonymity, which promotes the vapid, fickle, aggressive, and charged.
How are you so obsessed with the message board fans? The dregs of the boards are not worth dedicating the majority of your keystrokes toward. When will you come to grips with this?
Reposting things by a bunch of nobodies accomplishes NOTHING!
Post 1,853 railing against the message board fans.
… and yet another post from you bitching about me bitching. What's your point?
When will you get that this is what most message boards are like? You get mob mentalities multiplied by the psychology of anonymity, which promotes the vapid, fickle, aggressive, and charged.
What makes you think I don't "get" what they're like? I completely do, which is why I choose to comment on the asinine nature of them.
I chose to write on the topic (re: message boards forming their mob mentality over an unsubstantiated rumor). If you want to read it, great. If you don't, great. If you have a comment, bring it on… but to keep giving me shit for what I choose to write about – you have no leg to stand on.
Again, if it's not for you, move along. Don't read it… but quit pissing and moaning about my topic of choice.
How are you so obsessed with the message board fans? The dregs of the boards are not worth dedicating the majority of your keystrokes toward. When will you come to grips with this?
I am attempting to hold a mirror up to the face of the moron who shittalked a long-time Cane, a NFL veteran and current Miami head coach — implying that he's not a "real Cane" if he goes to Gaineville, yet they're "real" Canes because they log way too much time online complaining about anything and everything.
It's bad enough to bitch daily about a Randy Shannon "problem" that isn't going away anytime soon… but to shred Mike Barrow over an unsubstantiated rumor that was proven incorrect within hours? To go back and re-read some of this drivel, which looks even more idiotic now that he's still at UM, it deserves to be discussed.
Reposting things by a bunch of nobodies accomplishes NOTHING!
Such is one man's opinion. Other are chiming in and have something to say on the matter.
If it's not for you, leave. Seriously.
I dig your style and get the point you're trying to make — I simply don't understand your MO of trying to knock down topics of choice here, contempt for weak arguments on message boards or overuse of an idiom.
You come off like a well-versed personality. Bring more to the table than just trying to knock me down.
Wait, let me get this straight, some of you spend money each month for a subscription to a website where the revenue does not go to the University? Just to bitch about said University? Instead of wasting your money on a dumb rumor based site, donate that money each month to the school, and then maybe something positive will come from it. I read Manny, Shandel, AllCanes and every now and then, Jorge Milian or Canespace. But I have never wasted a penny on one of those paysites. Any info worth its salt will make it to one of these other outlets in a matter of moments. I guess my point is, I just don't get it. Many of our so called "fans", I don't think really get what it truly means to be a genuine fan.
I think Justin's comments were dead on.
ease up doubters.. this iis efn michael barrow we are talking about.. if you know anything about Miami football history you know he's as much the reason we are the U (i hate this term as much as swag) as anybody else..
We owe him the benefit of the doubt, and at the end of the day, its a business when you are a coach..grow the f up..
u would make a business decision based on you only because thats life.
M Barrow, I hope u were just entertaining their offers but all the best for whatever your decision is…
U earned my respect a hell of long time ago…
U invented LBs with speed..
1 love.
I used to have a Rivals account but I didn't renew it this year because it's gotten so bad.
After Manny wrote his article entitled 'Barrow to coach UM's linebackers again', he later twitted,
"CBS-4 confirms UM LB coach Micheal Barrow is interviewing for the co-defensive coordinator job at Florida".
So whats the deal?
After Manny wrote his article entitled 'Barrow to coach UM's linebackers again', he later twitted,
"CBS-4 confirms UM LB coach Micheal Barrow is interviewing for the co-defensive coordinator job at Florida". So whats the deal?
…. whatever the deal, it doesn't justify the idiot comments and trashing of Barrow on message boards.
He can leave Miami to coach at Florida, Texas, Ohio State, USC, Florida State or Notre Dame — doesn't make him less of a Cane or justify some of our fans saying he's "no longer a Cane".
College football is big business and there's nothing wrong about a young coach trying to climb the coaching ladder. Barrow has THREE years college experience under his belt and if he thinks going to UF for the bigger pay day will help him grow as a coach, so be it.
It's not for some supposed fans on a message board to bitch about.
I'd say Canesport started this rumor. That's why they suck. I think you (AllCanes) could be more eloquent when trying to hold a mirror up to the fanbase. Focus on how it affects recruiting or something. Justin, we are a major college football program. We've just dropped off like ND or FSU. I bet you'd consider Boise to be, or Cinci etc. Give me a break everyone on ESPN acts like Boise should even be respected. But you don't think Miami should be just because we won our 5 (arguably 6) national titles? STFU.
You think it's cool to "hate 'the u'"? or what? Just because someone from Florida or UNC said they're the U it makes the term bad? The same thing with swag. everyone wants to be Us
I'd say Canesport started this rumor. That's why they suck. I think you (allCanes) could be more eloquent when trying to hold a mirror up to the fanbase. Focus on how it affects recruiting or something.
No disrespect, but I'll take the angle I want to take and I'll write accordingly.
People know this kind of trash impacts recruiting. That's a no brainer and there's not much to say on the matter.
I wanted to hold up a mirror by reprinting a few choice posts within hours of the rumor starting. I was disgusted by some of the commentary and for those who don't peruse message boards, I wanted them to see how their fellow Canes reacted to the Barrow news.
I respect your take, but I chose the angle I was comfortable writing about.
Our fans aren't fans, they live off of the U's legacy, but true fans are most proud & strong when things are rough. But, once these fair weather frontrunning fans face adversity, they pour it on, looking to blame someone. If Shannon brings the program back to respectability, they say, who cares if hes a delinquent, its about winning, yeah very classy. These are the same fans who don't use an ounce of loyalty to fill up the stadium, win or lose. I go to games when we are at our highs & lows. So, by logging on every damn & ranting on stupidity, they think they are true fans. Until I saw Barrow on the sidelines in a Gators shirt, he had my support. But, I see Canes fans all over the cyber world, but until you come to the stadium, shut your fat mouths & don't you dare say you are true Canes! RIP to my class mate & friend Bryan Pata, & Sean Taylor
Great post man
Just my two cents, but IMHO the reason for the hysteria over this possible Gator hire of Barrow is the perception that UF is trying to suck all the life out of the Canes' program at any cost. There is a real and deep seated hatred between these two programs going back for decades, with good reason. (Remember the FLOP"?) UF has the power of the state of Florida behind it, a big alumni base, and Meyer appears determined to succeed anyway he can against UM and FSU.
FSU has state money to keep them competitive against the Gators. Miami, not so much.
Dang Michael think you could toot your own horn a little more? Way to name drop. btw not every Cane fan lives in south fl either. Including Allcanes' blogger if I'm not mistaken lives west coast.
Allcanes, I was referring more to your discussion with Justin. I didn't mean this blog specifically. I just ask you to try and think of some more effective angles to take. But you do bash the boards in probably every post and it has the chance of becoming very repetitive. It also seems like there's a lot of hatred in your posts. But do your thing dude you own the blog. Just my 2cents.
"I think you (AllCanes) could be more eloquent when trying to hold a mirror up to the fanbase…"
Focus on how it affects recruiting or something. Justin, we are a major college football program. We've just dropped off like ND or FSU. I bet you'd consider Boise to be, or Cinci etc. Give me a break everyone on ESPN acts like Boise should even be respected. But you don't think Miami should be just because we won our 5 (arguably 6) national titles? STFU."
Nice juxtaposition, asking 305 to be more "eloquent" & asking politely admonishing me to "STFU".
Anonymous, what I mean by "major college program" is this: there are certain schools that will shell out any amount of money, let in collection of thugs & piss poor students, lie, cheat & steal in recruiting, exist in a vacuum within towns & regions that cannot understand anything but that respective program, have no allegiance to anything but winning, will forfeit their traditions for the next hired gun & ESPN soundbite machine playboy–none of these things is Miami able to do. That's the way I like it. I'm not cowering you clown; Miami's the best place to play the greatest sport in American history. Stop getting your analysis from the four letter word & projecting it on me.
I don't think Boise's the U–are you kidding? I'm just saying we've always been a stepping stone–except for RS. He's here to stay. Do I love everything he's done? No. But I'm behind this team for everything I have in 2010.
They addressed needs, and still pulled in a top class. The U will be fine. It will be nice to go throw a beatin on Ohio State.
I guess you would have loved the USSR circa 1975. Its called freedom of speech, people are allowed to say (post) what they want. Just because everyone isn't drunking the Randy cool-aid like you are, no reason to criticize how people feel. So Canesport should censor people because they are saying things you don't like? Who are you?
I think the posts above are dumb, but people have a right to say whatever they want. I think people (like you) who constantly give excuses for Shannon's mismanagement are also dumb. But you have a right to write as many blog entries you want.
Are Packers fans morons because they are upset with Favre? I don't think so. And I don't think that people are morons for being upset with Barrow, since he obviously just shook Randy down for a promotion using Miami's biggest rival as leverage.
i agree barrow can leave for wherever the money is, as college football is big business, but florida…really?
i get how almost every cane would see that as a slap in the face!
i won't bitch or complain, but i'd feel betrayed. this isn't like leonard hamilton not getting a contract renewed at miami and going to fsu…this is michael barrow, he is the u, he helped establish linebacker U. he's miami the way randy is miami, you would never want to lose him. leaving to fsu or florida would hurt me as a lifelong fan.
Man, I agree with what you are saying about the Knee jerk reactions by some of the fans. However, we are talking about the gayturds! That would of been a hard pill to swallow. I just can't see a Michael Barrow type "former Cane" player"s" coaching for the gaytords.
I never doubted he would stay!
I hardly read any of the message board any more. The reason why is because of the negative talk. I hate "CHICKED LITTLES" life is good and the sky is never going to fall…………
PS I do enjoy or objective reporting.
Thank you AllCANES!
I give you a hard time because I love reading about my 'Canes from a fan's perspective and find that your regular dalliance with this trite vendetta against message board knuckleheads cheapens this blog.
For example, you could have sung the praises of the current recruiting class without once giving weight to the internet clods by specifically pointing them out.
Obviously, it's your blog and your prerogative but I've enjoyed you at your best and feel somebody should call you out, particularly since it seems that you don't realize the extent in which you've occupied your time remonstrating against these fools.
ummmm wow… you do know the following quote is from the godfather right? the guy who posted this was making a joke out of the situation and you quoted it on your site? haha, that poster played you man
"Michael, you're nothing to me now. You're not a brother, you're not a friend. I don't want to know you or what you do. I don't want to see you at the games, I don't want you near my school. When you see our Canes, I want to know a day in advance, so I won't be there. You understand?"
Chris, that was a great post. People on these message boards are flat out whacked! Michael Barrow is a CANE. PERIOD. I am assistant golf pro. I am doing interviews to become a Head Golf Professional, I am looking to move up and always better myself, same as coaches are in this business. There is nothing wrong with taking oppurtunity.
ummmm wow… you do know the following quote is from the godfather right? the guy who posted this was making a joke out of the situation and you quoted it on your site? haha, that poster played you man
I'm 36 years old and my last name ends in a vowel. I didn't miss the Godfather reference.
As for the tone or intent, I don't know or care. I took a sampling of quotes and rants online to make a point.
I give you a hard time because I love reading about my 'Canes from a fan's perspective and find that your regular dalliance with this trite vendetta against message board knuckleheads cheapens this blog.
For example, you could have sung the praises of the current recruiting class without once giving weight to the internet clods by specifically pointing them out.
Obviously, it's your blog and your prerogative but I've enjoyed you at your best and feel somebody should call you out, particularly since it seems that you don't realize the extent in which you've occupied your time remonstrating against these fools.
Matias – I actually get where you're coming from and appreciate your position.
I'll defend my stance with this – it's the off-season and there's not a lot to discuss. When there's more, I don't dwell as much on the hate and stupidity.
This Barrow thing was a new low, in my opinion. The fact that (1) it was a rumor and (2) the new just broke — the fact that so many clowns fell off the deep end and talked shit… it was disgusting.
As is the mindset that some superfan behind a keyboard is more of a Cane than a guy who played for the program four years and is now coaching at his alma mater.
Both Barrow and Shannon leave more Cane DNA in the toilet every time they pinch one off than the average Internet geek has in their entire body.
Thanks for explaining yourself. Sometimes I don't see the forest for the trees and you've pointed out some things I hadn't thought about. Appreciated. Keep the hits coming.
I guess you would have loved the USSR circa 1975. Its called freedom of speech, people are allowed to say (post) what they want. Just because everyone isn't drunking the Randy cool-aid like you are, no reason to criticize how people feel. So Canesport should censor people because they are saying things you don't like? Who are you?
Way to blow things out of proportion.
First off, there's no "freedom of speech" on message boards. Language is censored. Personal attacks on other posters are censored. There are rules and if you want to post, you abide.
The personal attacks on coaches and the same crap over and over and over again… it gets old. There used to be some good debates on both boards, but now they seem infiltrated with shit-starting morons who are overemotional and use zero logic.
Your comprehension skills are a joke if you think I'm "drinking the Randy Kook-Aid" (seriously, as cliche as any of the insults you see on a message board daily).
I support Shannon because he's the coach and I believe he deserves five years to turn things around. I've also been bold in saying that if he doesn't have Miami back in the title hunt by 2011, he needs to go by 2012.
How is that 'blind loyalty'?
I think the posts above are dumb, but people have a right to say whatever they want. I think people (like you) who constantly give excuses for Shannon's mismanagement are also dumb. But you have a right to write as many blog entries you want.
Again, people don't have a right to say 'whatever they want'. Walk on to a plane and say you have a bomb in your bag. Walk into a bank and say you have a gun. See how far you get.
'Freedom of speech' is the most blown out of proportion right we have. There are rules and both the UM-themed Scout and Rival boards need to clean house. Raise the standards. They don't need to be the gestapos like the hacks on the UF boards, but something has to give.
Are Packers fans morons because they are upset with Favre? I don't think so. And I don't think that people are morons for being upset with Barrow, since he obviously just shook Randy down for a promotion using Miami's biggest rival as leverage.
Barrow shook Randy down? Last I checked, the University of Miami writes the checks, not the head coach. Business is business and if UF had interest in Barrow, he's SMART to interview in effort to have more leverage. If he didn't, he'd be a moron.
Sounds like Barrow is staying at UM (funny all the rants and reports when he was supposedly leaving… but little follow up now that he's staying).
Dude isn't going anywhere, yet a ton of folk trash talked him and came at him like he shot their dog… as if they have any right to go so overboard.
I love my thessorus like i hate barrow to. Look at how smart i am! im a loser.
Allcanes, do you think you could post how many times miami needed a timeout to score at the end of the half(Clemson game). Or when randy called a timeout for the defense on a 3rd and long in the second half of a game. When we later needed timeouts in the 4th quarter.
And he does this EVERY GAME! WTF, this is pop warner football stuff. Things i learned playing football in 4th grade.
Even if the offense gets the first down on a 3rd and long, its better to have the Time Out at the end of the game, in case you need to stop the clock and get the god damn ball back!! Why is shannon such a stuburn clown about this.
This is the #1 reason why i don't like randy shannon and i think the reason why most miami fans dont like him.
He's either too stuburn or too dumb to coach the great CANES. go take this crap to a high school team somewhere. Other than that, i like that he could be here a long time, but he better stop wasting timeouts, there too valuable Randall.
Wow, if you guys knew football, then you could say or (post) whatever you want. But everyone has selective memory. Teams dominate for a while, then reload, hopefully when you reload you can bring in the right talent to replace it, or it's a rebuilding process. Question, where was florida when Miami, & even FSU were winning titles? but now they have 2 titles & we want to act as if they have been winning for 10 consecutive years or something. Think about our dominant era, then we went through our scholarships being pulled due to the financial aid scams, then came back in the early 2000's to prominence. The gators schedule inferior opponents year after year & still couldn't have an undefeated national championship year. Shannon is finally getting rid of all of the baggage left behind by Coker. & he still has a few of his guys on the roster. You idiots analyze, but don't realize he had the #1 overall class 2 years ago, & a top 10 a year later. Is he perfect, no, but how is Meyer doing with all of his arrests?
This is the only blog/message board I frequently get involved with. I only come here to talk to other Cane fans and support my team. I could really care less what other people's opinions are. The only opinion that matters to me, is my own.
If stories like this was to effect anyone personally it would be Coach Barrow and i'm sure if he's heard about this…he's probably laughing about it.
The only thing I really want to say is that watching Coach Barrow on the sidelines has been a treat. His enthusiasm is unmatched by any other Cane coach and i hope he stays for the long haul. If for some reason he leaves UM, he'll still be a UM legend in my eyes.
Allcanes,
When will somebody in the media call out the gators and all of their arrests. Now we have a DT smacking two chicks because they wanted him to leave a party. This has become utterly ridiculous, the free pass they continue to get. I would say that maybe when you are winning, these infractions tend to get overlooked. That is, unless you are the Miami Hurricanes. If my memory serves me correctly, weren't there certain group calling for the closure of Miami's program for instances just like this.
I know this may sound like whining, but it is disgusting how much the media swings from the gators sac. Isn't there job to report unbiased news(I laughed too when I wrote this)?
Wow, really? Advocating message board gestapos? Yes, that statement, following such a passionate argument for message board moderation doesn't represent the ultimate in hypocrisy or anything.
Way to be classy… way to represent the Cane nation with allusions to Nazi Germany. I'm sure fellow alumni such as myself, trustees, ex-players and coaches don't read this blog or anything.
To Allcanes and those who think that Barrow might be interested in moving for more coin. Flat wrong, he is not a working stiff. This guy worked in the NFL for 13 years and made many, many millions. If he invested his money wisely, and he seems to be a pretty mature and responsible guy, i dont think he needs any money from UM or UF. He is however, interested in developing as a coach and if he has to make a move to another school in order to climb the coaching ladder, there is nothing wrong with that! Few players are more Cane-for-life than Michael Barrow, regardless of where he is goes to get a promotion.
RSA Coral Gables
Wow. A chucklehead is impersonating me now. And with such wit.
Chris, glad you heard me out. Respect.
I agree with most of what you said 305. I think this fan base is completely Bi-polar and loses their mind over the pettiest things. Randy Shannon is not the problem (try pointing your fingers at a lack of depth at key positions thanks to Larry Choker, poor offensive line play, tons of injuries and a QB that was beat up all season.) I will say this: I have no issue if Michael Barrow leaves to progress in his career, but you have to admit that him going to the Gay-tors (hypothetically) would be a little bit of a kick in the gut to the U! I'm just saying…
I personally don't like the gaturds as much as the next cane fan. but does it really matter?
IT MATTERS…The Gay-tors represent everything that is wrong in college football! Just ask a Boston Red Sox fan if it matters that Johnny Damon left for the "Evil Empire"…IT MATTERS!!!
Anybody but FSU or UF!
As a Florida taxpayer I am sick of paying for the Gator football scholarships and then their subsequent Florida prison system incarceration. LETS STOP THE MADNESS!
By "weed out the morons" .. do you mean the people who don't call time outs while the clock is still running, then call a time out after an incomplete pass (when the clock isn't running).. because if you do.. then i agree.
Personally, I hope he visited the UofF and learned something that we can use in the future recruiting wars.
This tactic was used by Microsoft against its rivals for years. I would be soooo disappointed if Michael didn't use this great opportunity to learn something of value!
The people who shout and yell at the drop of a hat are just using their reptilian (gator) brains.
BZCANES here
When I heard this rumor I simply dismissed it,followed by a thought of what would happen IF this did actually happen.
True Canes like Barrow are very important to our program.
This is a guy that was Ray Lewis..before Ray Lewis was Ray Lewis!
On the field, the guy was simply a BADASS.
Finishing 7th in Heisman voting as a linebacker is an accomplishment that probably hasn't been duplicated more than 5 times.
I was very young when he was at Miami, but I still remember some devestating hits #56 put on people, and that's been almost 20 years ago!
I have no first hand knowledge, but I'm guessing he's a very good recruiter. Anyone who was that good as a player has big time appeal when he walks into a high school. Plus he's in his hometown and can relate with kids in South Florida.
Michael Barrow is a true Miami Hurricane…as true as there is.
I believe that he'll be here for a while, and I think it's very important that the University makes the appropriate effort to keep him and others on the staff.
The only difference with Miami and any other assistant coaching job in the country is money. The University needs to step up and pay all of our coaches like other programs do.
It's something we've dropped the ball on for a while now, and that needs to change.
It's more difficult to develop our players if position coaches are just around for a few years, recruiting is hurt…hell it effects everything.
I would understand if Barrow decided to take a trip to Gainsville or anywhere else to check out what they have to offer. When it comes down to it he's no different than any of us. He has to do what's best for him and his family!
Anyone who is a professional at any job understands the leverage routine.
IF I think having another offer from a competitor will give me a bump in pay then I do it.
If I felt underappreciated long enough then I would leave for greener pastures. Who in the hell wouldn't?!
As fans the only thing we can do is push the University to take care of our people.
This doesn't come down on Shannon…it's more about his bosses and the trustees and officials that make the decisions.
If Shannon had his way I'm sure he'd pay his staff more, and blaming him is obsurd in my opinion.
All that said-I'm a true fan. No matter what happens I'll bleed orange and green and love Miami football. If I were in Barrow's shoes I'd quite possibly try to leverage a few offers into more money…but I would never leave the U. Miami means that much to me…and I'm just a freaking fan!
This guy put his own blood sweat and tears into the program. He's won 2 rings and I'm just guessing, but I think the program means as much to him as anyone..if not more.
He's not leaving his team for an arch rival unless he's shafted badly.
Instead of bitching about rumors…do something to make sure this never happens.
Put some pressure on the school's administration to sack up and pay our coaches,
Go out and support the team and actually attend the games,
Hell..donate some damn money if you can.
I didn't attend Miami, and I'm not super wealthy..but I guarantee that there are some prominent alums with connections out there that do have some pull.
Find them…explain to them that even a rumor about a hometown guy like Barrow leaving for more money pisses you off.
Miami may be a small private school, but lets not be naive and think we can't afford to pay important coaches like other schools.
It's freaking Miami!
We've been the most dominate program over the last quarter century in the entire country…and there isn't really a close second.
The school has plenty of resources to pay these guys appropriately..it's a matter of whether or not they deem it important.
The fanbase may be irrational at times (name one that isn't???) but it's as passionate as any.
Bitching and complaining is fine….just keep it in perspective and bitch about the right things to the right people.
This isn't Shannon's fault, it's not Barrow's fault, and I sure as hell don't blame UF for trying to lure the guy there.
I think the problem in general is that our coaches are underpaid compared to other top schools.
If we're going to consistently be at the top of College Football…then the University needs to run the business within certain parameters. The coaching world has changed drastically over the last 10 years.
We need to change with it, or rumors like this will become reality.
RS just needs to stop wasting time outs on "learning, or teaching opportunities".
Save Timeouts for the end of the game in case you need them. Get it right this year! Smartin up Randy…the streets is watchin here in NY. Canes in new york want a BCS game this year!